CBS Detroit Is Unwatchable

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CBS Detroit Is Unwatchable

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I think the station is in need of a massive overhaul that goes beyond hiring a new News Director.
The newscasts are unwatchable. It’s like amateur hour. Maybe CBS realizes it’s a lost cause? Below are the BIG issues.

Jennifer Lyons as regional GM makes no sense.
CBS Chicago is dead last in the Chicago market. The ratings worsened after she took over there and made talent changes. She’s never had to fix a broken station. She came from WGN which like WDIV & FOX 2 are automatically number one stations.

Kennan Oliphant is now running the newsroom. So you poach the guy from the #3 station to fix the #4 station. 🙄


Paul Pytlowany and Lisa Palmer drove the place into the ground. They had no experience in building / running a newsroom. They’re useless and clueless. Palmer has had several people report her to HR. Pytlowany only shines when he’s running a camera.

Managing Editor does not perform the duties that role requires. He spends too much time working the newsroom like a ships Cruise Director just mingling with people and raising his voice when he’s angry

Amyre Makupson makes sure everyone knows who her mom is. She also has gotten in trouble for gas lighting situations. She also likes to self-promote herself on this board. She’s more concerned landing an anchor role than anything.

Producers and Reporters are all inexperienced and need their hands held.

Rachel Hopmayer is awful as a sports reporter. Again another Pytlowany and Palmer hire.

Anchors need an overhaul except for Shaina Humphries. The same with the weather team.

The AM show, where the money is made is awful. All they do is toss to CBS pieces and the chemistry is weird. The EP was removed because of reported issues with AM producers. He also has a love of sending out newsroom emails criticizing the product and individuals.
Sometime's the show was getting hash marks in the HH and Demos.

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I'm sorry, which stations have you revitalized?

Do you know why Jennifer is successful? Do you know what CBS's outcome goals are?

You seem to be spitting out a series personal opinions almost like you are a disgruntled employee.
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I currently work there. It is a rough place to work.
I’ve been there since day one.
There has been some crazy stuff go down. And the people that caused it are still there.
Paul and Lisa lost the newsroom.
couple months into it - the producers walked out of the newsroom and went into the conference room because they were tired of everything.
There were also movie nights were producers went over to amyre makeups’s house and it became a big gossip session led by Amyre .
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Lisa Palmer is absolutely terrible. She is terrible to work for and to work with. She was fired from XYZ & jump ship at Fox so she could take the CBS gig. All of the newsrooms in Detroit are better without her.
Hiring Kennan away from XYZ could potentially be a win, but we may not know that for some time. Scripps is terrible to work for and how much control he actually had while steering the XYZ ship may have been minimal due to cincy having to have control.
They also recently hired a new EP from Houston. He is a native Detroiter with previous experience at Fox as EP as well.
Nothing will change or move until Lisa is shown the door. They will continue to be a basement dweller.
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Photog2024! wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:36 am I think the station is in need of a massive overhaul that goes beyond hiring a new News Director.
The newscasts are unwatchable. It’s like amateur hour. Maybe CBS realizes it’s a lost cause? Below are the BIG issues.

Jennifer Lyons as regional GM makes no sense.
CBS Chicago is dead last in the Chicago market. The ratings worsened after she took over there and made talent changes. She’s never had to fix a broken station. She came from WGN which like WDIV & FOX 2 are automatically number one stations.

Kennan Oliphant is now running the newsroom. So you poach the guy from the #3 station to fix the #4 station. 🙄


Paul Pytlowany and Lisa Palmer drove the place into the ground. They had no experience in building / running a newsroom. They’re useless and clueless. Palmer has had several people report her to HR. Pytlowany only shines when he’s running a camera.

Managing Editor does not perform the duties that role requires. He spends too much time working the newsroom like a ships Cruise Director just mingling with people and raising his voice when he’s angry

Amyre Makupson makes sure everyone knows who her mom is. She also has gotten in trouble for gas lighting situations. She also likes to self-promote herself on this board. She’s more concerned landing an anchor role than anything.

Producers and Reporters are all inexperienced and need their hands held.

Rachel Hopmayer is awful as a sports reporter. Again another Pytlowany and Palmer hire.

Anchors need an overhaul except for Shaina Humphries. The same with the weather team.

The AM show, where the money is made is awful. All they do is toss to CBS pieces and the chemistry is weird. The EP was removed because of reported issues with AM producers. He also has a love of sending out newsroom emails criticizing the product and individuals.
Sometime's the show was getting hash marks in the HH and Demos.

You can shuffle the deck chairs all you want on the Titanic but it’s still going down.
WGN is not the number one station in Chicago. It’s the number 2 or 3 station. For that matter FOX 2 is generally not number one either.
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62 for the most part has been a terrible CBS O&O, and that goes long before this latest attempt at news. It’s so bad I consider WTOL my primary CBS station.
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MWmetalhead wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:55 pm
Rate This wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:07 pm
Photog2024! wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:36 am I think the station is in need of a massive overhaul that goes beyond hiring a new News Director.
The newscasts are unwatchable. It’s like amateur hour. Maybe CBS realizes it’s a lost cause? Below are the BIG issues.

Jennifer Lyons as regional GM makes no sense.
CBS Chicago is dead last in the Chicago market. The ratings worsened after she took over there and made talent changes. She’s never had to fix a broken station. She came from WGN which like WDIV & FOX 2 are automatically number one stations.

Kennan Oliphant is now running the newsroom. So you poach the guy from the #3 station to fix the #4 station. 🙄


Paul Pytlowany and Lisa Palmer drove the place into the ground. They had no experience in building / running a newsroom. They’re useless and clueless. Palmer has had several people report her to HR. Pytlowany only shines when he’s running a camera.

Managing Editor does not perform the duties that role requires. He spends too much time working the newsroom like a ships Cruise Director just mingling with people and raising his voice when he’s angry

Amyre Makupson makes sure everyone knows who her mom is. She also has gotten in trouble for gas lighting situations. She also likes to self-promote herself on this board. She’s more concerned landing an anchor role than anything.

Producers and Reporters are all inexperienced and need their hands held.

Rachel Hopmayer is awful as a sports reporter. Again another Pytlowany and Palmer hire.

Anchors need an overhaul except for Shaina Humphries. The same with the weather team.

The AM show, where the money is made is awful. All they do is toss to CBS pieces and the chemistry is weird. The EP was removed because of reported issues with AM producers. He also has a love of sending out newsroom emails criticizing the product and individuals.
Sometime's the show was getting hash marks in the HH and Demos.

You can shuffle the deck chairs all you want on the Titanic but it’s still going down.
WGN is not the number one station in Chicago. It’s the number 2 or 3 station. For that matter FOX 2 is generally not number one either.
WGN is #1 in demo by a comfortable margin in mornings. They and WMAQ are in a tight battle for second place in most other day parts with ABC 7 owning first place.
That was basically my understanding. I'm not up before 10am usually and really could care less about ratings outside of evenings... kind of an out of sight out of mind thing. 4 never won so they never published any. What we had for mornings came from 2 sending the entire ratings book out to crow about their morning shows success.

All of that said I do find it interesting that the same stations that do well in mornings are less successful later in the day and vice versa.
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TC Talks wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:01 am
You seem to be spitting out a series personal opinions almost like you are a disgruntled employee.
You've been here since 2005, personal opinions by disgruntled employees is on-brand.
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edj wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:32 pm 62 for the most part has been a terrible CBS O&O, and that goes long before this latest attempt at news. It’s so bad I consider WTOL my primary CBS station.
And WTOL's not as good as it once was either, so ouch.
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MWmetalhead wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:55 pm
WGN is #1 in demo by a comfortable margin in mornings. They and WMAQ are in a tight battle for second place in most other day parts with ABC 7 owning first place.
And WBBM has been an also ran for many, MANY years so I'm not sure if I would fault an exec for not improving their ratings. They basically never recovered from the dual blow of Walter Jacobson leaving for WFLD and CBS losing the NFL to Fox at the same time (making them no longer the home of the Bears) and that was over 30 years ago now. In the early 2000s their 10 pm news was infamously getting trounced in the ratings not only by WLS and WMAQ's news but also Friends reruns on WGN and Simpsons reruns on WFLD.
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SolidGoldDancers wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:11 am
TC Talks wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:01 am
You seem to be spitting out a series personal opinions almost like you are a disgruntled employee.
You've been here since 2005, personal opinions by disgruntled employees is on-brand.
True, where did Sinklair go btw?
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CBS Detroit never reported local stories like they said they would. So I get it from Macomb country scanner. Also CBS Detroit reported the same stories I saw on Fox 2 or WDIV. Made no sense to watch the same story 3 times again.
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It's a shame that a station in market #14 is so bad.
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