UofM folds like a cheap lawn chair

[TC Talks]

This didn't take long. I guess all the mottos are just for P.R. but are meaningless

[Matt]

This didn't take long. I guess all the mottos are just for P.R. but are meaningless

This was already posted in the Trump watch thread. Also, protecting in excess of a billion dollars isn't taking a knee.

[Rate This]

This didn't take long. I guess all the mottos are just for P.R. but are meaningless

This was already posted in the Trump watch thread. Also, protecting in excess of a billion dollars isn't taking a knee.

You and I both know this is a test of whether or not they’ll fold like a cheap suit and that there will be more increasingly outrageous demands with funding hinging on compliance.

[Robert Faygo]

Once Columbia capitulated it was all over for every other university.

[TC Talks]

Once Columbia capitulated it was all over for every other university.

I disagree, UofM can be quite litigious when they choose to be. This will come back to haunt them... I suspect the funding is gone no matter what...

[Matt]

Once Columbia capitulated it was all over for every other university.

I disagree, UofM can be quite litigious when they choose to be. This will come back to haunt them... I suspect the funding is gone no matter what...

You are incorrect. This is entirely about stopping the bleeding. Institutions across the country will lose funding for research projects that the current regime doesn't like, but that is the cost of having elected a dictator. What happened at Columbia, which was illegally blackmailing that institution, can happen anywhere. Your comment about U-M being litigious doesn't apply here, and it won't for as long as this regime is in place.

[TC Talks]

Once Columbia capitulated it was all over for every other university.

I disagree, UofM can be quite litigious when they choose to be. This will come back to haunt them... I suspect the funding is gone no matter what...

You are incorrect. This is entirely about stopping the bleeding. Institutions across the country will lose funding for research projects that the current regime doesn't like, but that is the cost of having elected a dictator. What happened at Columbia, which was illegally blackmailing that institution, can happen anywhere. Your comment about U-M being litigious doesn't apply here, and it won't for as long as this regime is in place.

What a courageous stance. UofM has one of the largest endowment caches in the world. They are completely capable of this fight, if their values were in check.

[Robert Faygo]

The better strategy is to lie low for the next 4 years (or less) and work behind the scenes to influence change at the federal level.

Putting this stuff on hold temporarily and keeping your endowment intact makes more sense than fighting - at least right now.

Once this storm passes, the sun will rise again.

[Matt]

Once Columbia capitulated it was all over for every other university.

I disagree, UofM can be quite litigious when they choose to be. This will come back to haunt them... I suspect the funding is gone no matter what...

You are incorrect. This is entirely about stopping the bleeding. Institutions across the country will lose funding for research projects that the current regime doesn't like, but that is the cost of having elected a dictator. What happened at Columbia, which was illegally blackmailing that institution, can happen anywhere. Your comment about U-M being litigious doesn't apply here, and it won't for as long as this regime is in place.

What a courageous stance. UofM has one of the largest endowment caches in the world. They are completely capable of this fight, if their values were in check.

Ah, going down the clueless route again, I see. Here, let me remind you:

So the State of Michigan pays UofM, (who's endowment is greater than the State's budget), $300 million dollars each year?

Why isn't any money going to The Trump's School of Lawncare?

Scam, disgrace, total slush fund.

As per usual, wrong: https://record.umich.edu/articles/unive ... -in-fy-22/

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 883610007/

Oh, btw, anyone who rails against an endowed value is either disingenuous or a blithering moron:

Q. What are endowment funds?
The university’s endowment is essential to sustaining academic excellence because it provides a guaranteed, never-ending source of income to support student scholarships, professorships, innovative programs, learning opportunities and life-saving research. Donors who contribute to the endowment do so because they want to support the university and positively impact U-M students and academic programs 25, 50 or 100 years from now.

The university’s endowment funds consist of both true endowments and quasi-endowments, also known as “funds functioning as endowments.” U-M’s true endowments are permanent endowment funds received from donors with the stipulation that the principal remain untouched and that it be invested to produce a never-ending source of support for the purposes specified by the donors. Quasi-endowments are funds reserved by the university on a permanent or long-term basis for specific programs or projects critical to the mission, financial health and growth of the university.

https://publicaffairs.vpcomm.umich.edu/ ... endowment/

I can provide links to random websites just like Matt that have nothing to do with the topic at hand:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=48rz8udZBmQ

The fact remains that NATAS is profiting off public worker time and money.

I've countered your statements on U-M and pointed out they were factually incorrect.

And another:

Compared to non-Big Ten private schools with a strong research reputation, U-M fell far short. Granted, tuition differentials are likely part of the reason for that, although U-M out of state tuition is hardly cheap.

UofM has an endowment above 17 Billion. It can afford to be a world class research institution. Do you know how many patents it co-owns?

"Say what you don't know how and why an endowment fund exists without saying you don't know how and why an endowment fund exists."

The reality is that they're closing two offices, one on Central Campus and one in the Med School. The commitment to the work remains - U-M has chosen to play in the sandbox with the regime in Washington, which is a sound decision. The email that was sent yesterday is publicly available: https://president.umich.edu/news-commun ... -together/

[TC Talks]

Oh, I've heard all about it from several alumni. Fortunately, this won't likely impact the sports donors... I am often reminded what's a priority.

Any reason the University didn't establish an independent organization to take over those programs? I see the sports programs work quite well with non affiliated groups to enhance the programs. Was this even considered?

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/20 ... -work.html

[Matt]

Oh, I've heard all about it from several alumni. Fortunately, this won't likely impact the sports donors... I am often reminded what's a priority.

Any reason the University didn't establish an independent organization to take over those programs? I see the sports programs work quite well with non affiliated groups to enhance the programs. Was this even considered?

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/20 ... -work.html

You just won't take your L, will you? I will remind you that DEI was implemented by Mark Schlissel, early in his presidency. You've had no issue bashing him in the past.

[TC Talks]

Oh, I've heard all about it from several alumni. Fortunately, this won't likely impact the sports donors... I am often reminded what's a priority.

Any reason the University didn't establish an independent organization to take over those programs? I see the sports programs work quite well with non affiliated groups to enhance the programs. Was this even considered?

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/20 ... -work.html

You just won't take your L, will you? I will remind you that DEI was implemented by Mark Schlissel, early in his presidency. You've had no issue bashing him in the past.

Remind me why he was let go again?

[Matt]

Oh, I've heard all about it from several alumni. Fortunately, this won't likely impact the sports donors... I am often reminded what's a priority.

Any reason the University didn't establish an independent organization to take over those programs? I see the sports programs work quite well with non affiliated groups to enhance the programs. Was this even considered?

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/20 ... -work.html

You just won't take your L, will you? I will remind you that DEI was implemented by Mark Schlissel, early in his presidency. You've had no issue bashing him in the past.

Remind me why he was let go again?

The Regents wanted to get rid of him and they found a way.

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

I am almost hoping they lose tonight.

[Matt]

I am almost hoping they lose tonight.

You're cheering against Michigan Basketball because the university dumped an ineffective bureaucracy? That's fucking weird.