Big Gretch Makes Taxpayer Wretch

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A Michigan electric vehicle battery company that pocketed $900,000 from taxpayers six years ago will keep the cash without penalty as it moves production and 188 jobs to South Carolina.
Akasol. Inc., a subsidiary of BorgWarner, will lay off a total of 188 workers when it closes two separate plants in Hazel Park and Warren on April 14, to shift production of lithium-ion batteries south to enable the company to “grow above market,” the company said in a statement to the Detroit Free Press.
Akasol was approved in 2019 for a $2.24 million Michigan Business Development Program grant to build a $40 million manufacturing facility and create 224 jobs, but the taxpayer funding was later amended to $900,000 when the plan was scaled down to 90 jobs, MLive reports. Akasol fulfilled its agreement by maintaining the 90 jobs through 2023, which means the company can keep the incentives while it abandons its Michigan operations.
thepopulisttimes.com/gretchen-whitmer-gave-900k-to-ev-battery-maker-now-its-moving-to-south-carolina-and-keeping-our-money/

It's a shame that the Governor of the state that used to boast being the "Automobile Capitol Of The World" would throw, and waste, money at battery powered vehicles when we make perfectly great vehicles that use internal combustion engines.

I have it from a very good source, someone on her staff, that a run for President is being looked at very closely. Lets see if some of her "decision making" undergoes changes between now and 2026.
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Hugh Jorgan wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:22 am
A Michigan electric vehicle battery company that pocketed $900,000 from taxpayers six years ago will keep the cash without penalty as it moves production and 188 jobs to South Carolina.
Akasol. Inc., a subsidiary of BorgWarner, will lay off a total of 188 workers when it closes two separate plants in Hazel Park and Warren on April 14, to shift production of lithium-ion batteries south to enable the company to “grow above market,” the company said in a statement to the Detroit Free Press.
Akasol was approved in 2019 for a $2.24 million Michigan Business Development Program grant to build a $40 million manufacturing facility and create 224 jobs, but the taxpayer funding was later amended to $900,000 when the plan was scaled down to 90 jobs, MLive reports. Akasol fulfilled its agreement by maintaining the 90 jobs through 2023, which means the company can keep the incentives while it abandons its Michigan operations.
thepopulisttimes.com/gretchen-whitmer-gave-900k-to-ev-battery-maker-now-its-moving-to-south-carolina-and-keeping-our-money/

It's a shame that the Governor of the state that used to boast being the "Automobile Capitol Of The World" would throw, and waste, money at battery powered vehicles when we make perfectly great vehicles that use internal combustion engines.

I have it from a very good source, someone on her staff, that a run for President is being looked at very closely. Lets see if some of her "decision making" undergoes changes between now and 2026.
It’s a shame somebody threw money at internal combustion engines when we had perfectly good horses walking around.
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Except, the people "throwing" money at internal combustion engines were private entrepreneurs, not government officials spending taxpayer money.

Try again.
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Hugh Jorgan wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:53 am Except, the people "throwing" money at internal combustion engines were private entrepreneurs, not government officials spending taxpayer money.

Try again.
The point still holds and that comparison is apples and oranges for a number of reasons. A number of new technologies have been resisted over time and ultimately won the day.
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Rate This wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:55 am
Hugh Jorgan wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:53 am Except, the people "throwing" money at internal combustion engines were private entrepreneurs, not government officials spending taxpayer money.

Try again.
The point still holds and that comparison is apples and oranges for a number of reasons. A number of new technologies have been resisted over time and ultimately won the day.
Again, done with private money. When and if BOV are commercially viable, any number of private individuals will certainly invest.

7.5 billion of taxpayer money was spent to build 37 charging stations in 13 states so far. That's just stupid.
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Hugh Jorgan wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:49 am
Rate This wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:55 am
Hugh Jorgan wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:53 am Except, the people "throwing" money at internal combustion engines were private entrepreneurs, not government officials spending taxpayer money.

Try again.
The point still holds and that comparison is apples and oranges for a number of reasons. A number of new technologies have been resisted over time and ultimately won the day.
Again, done with private money. When and if BOV are commercially viable, any number of private individuals will certainly invest.

7.5 billion of taxpayer money was spent to build 37 charging stations in 13 states so far. That's just stupid.
It’s also entirely misleading bullshit.
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Assuming the disbursements began in 2020 and lasted through 2023, that boils down to $2,500 per year, per job.

I suspect there are much more problematic examples out there, but the fact the company in this instance was permitted to flee the state just two years after the taxpayer subsidy expired with no sort of financial penalty is definitely troubling.

Of course, the type of money we're talking here is chicken feed compared to the outrageous, financially disastrous funding package that was proposed for Marshall.
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I am pissed that both transphobe Gavin and Whitmer have made peace with Trump. That is truly wretch worthy.
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MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:33 pm I am pissed that both transphobe Gavin and Whitmer have made peace with Trump. That is truly wretch worthy.
It's an 80-20 issue that men shouldn't play in women's sports common sense would be that Trans-Athletes have their own sports leagues. I don't know if Gavin Newsome has flipped flopped on the issue he is like all politicians goes where the polls go on issues. I didn't know where Whitmer stood on the issue good for her standing up for women's sports.

I want my money back but I know I'm not going to get it back like most government wasting taxes at the state & federal level.
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DefendTheDen wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:12 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:33 pm I am pissed that both transphobe Gavin and Whitmer have made peace with Trump. That is truly wretch worthy.
It's an 80-20 issue that men shouldn't play in women's sports common sense would be that Trans-Athletes have their own sports leagues. I don't know if Gavin Newsome has flipped flopped on the issue he is like all politicians goes where the polls go on issues. I didn't know where Whitmer stood on the issue good for her standing up for women's sports.

I want my money back but I know I'm not going to get it back like most government wasting taxes at the state & federal level.
Shut the fuck up. Trans women are not men and never will be. There are approximately 100 trans college athletes in the whole country. The whole thing is about conditioning dolts like you to hate us as trans people, and you're too fucking stupid to see it.
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MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:02 pm
DefendTheDen wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:12 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:33 pm I am pissed that both transphobe Gavin and Whitmer have made peace with Trump. That is truly wretch worthy.
It's an 80-20 issue that men shouldn't play in women's sports common sense would be that Trans-Athletes have their own sports leagues. I don't know if Gavin Newsome has flipped flopped on the issue he is like all politicians goes where the polls go on issues. I didn't know where Whitmer stood on the issue good for her standing up for women's sports.

I want my money back but I know I'm not going to get it back like most government wasting taxes at the state & federal level.
Shut the fuck up. Trans women are not men and never will be. There are approximately 100 trans college athletes in the whole country. The whole thing is about conditioning dolts like you to hate us as trans people, and you're too fucking stupid to see it.
I didn’t think there were enough trans athletes to form a single sports league let alone across multiple sports. That 100 number kind of confirms it. So in the end it’s all a mindless distraction from actual problems.
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MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:02 pm
DefendTheDen wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:12 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:33 pm I am pissed that both transphobe Gavin and Whitmer have made peace with Trump. That is truly wretch worthy.
It's an 80-20 issue that men shouldn't play in women's sports common sense would be that Trans-Athletes have their own sports leagues. I don't know if Gavin Newsome has flipped flopped on the issue he is like all politicians goes where the polls go on issues. I didn't know where Whitmer stood on the issue good for her standing up for women's sports.

I want my money back but I know I'm not going to get it back like most government wasting taxes at the state & federal level.
Shut the fuck up. Trans women are not men and never will be. There are approximately 100 trans college athletes in the whole country. The whole thing is about conditioning dolts like you to hate us as trans people, and you're too fucking stupid to see it.
I don't hate Trans people and as I have said they should have their own sports league and I'm not stupid on the issue either along with 80% as well.
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Rate This wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:36 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:02 pm
DefendTheDen wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:12 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:33 pm I am pissed that both transphobe Gavin and Whitmer have made peace with Trump. That is truly wretch worthy.
It's an 80-20 issue that men shouldn't play in women's sports common sense would be that Trans-Athletes have their own sports leagues. I don't know if Gavin Newsome has flipped flopped on the issue he is like all politicians goes where the polls go on issues. I didn't know where Whitmer stood on the issue good for her standing up for women's sports.

I want my money back but I know I'm not going to get it back like most government wasting taxes at the state & federal level.
Shut the fuck up. Trans women are not men and never will be. There are approximately 100 trans college athletes in the whole country. The whole thing is about conditioning dolts like you to hate us as trans people, and you're too fucking stupid to see it.
I didn’t think there were enough trans athletes to form a single sports league let alone across multiple sports. That 100 number kind of confirms it. So in the end it’s all a mindless distraction from actual problems.
Ding ding ding!
Thousands of people getting fired by a billionaire who is trying to pad his pockets with more government contracts and tax cuts, attacks on social security by the same shmuck, stock market in free fall, prices continuing to increase (and will likely rise more), and I’m supposed to be mad about 100 transgender athletes?
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Chrocket87 wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:38 am
Rate This wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:36 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 2:02 pm
DefendTheDen wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:12 am
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:33 pm I am pissed that both transphobe Gavin and Whitmer have made peace with Trump. That is truly wretch worthy.
It's an 80-20 issue that men shouldn't play in women's sports common sense would be that Trans-Athletes have their own sports leagues. I don't know if Gavin Newsome has flipped flopped on the issue he is like all politicians goes where the polls go on issues. I didn't know where Whitmer stood on the issue good for her standing up for women's sports.

I want my money back but I know I'm not going to get it back like most government wasting taxes at the state & federal level.
Shut the fuck up. Trans women are not men and never will be. There are approximately 100 trans college athletes in the whole country. The whole thing is about conditioning dolts like you to hate us as trans people, and you're too fucking stupid to see it.
I didn’t think there were enough trans athletes to form a single sports league let alone across multiple sports. That 100 number kind of confirms it. So in the end it’s all a mindless distraction from actual problems.
Ding ding ding!
Thousands of people getting fired by a billionaire who is trying to pad his pockets with more government contracts and tax cuts, attacks on social security by the same shmuck, stock market in free fall, prices continuing to increase (and will likely rise more), and I’m supposed to be mad about 100 transgender athletes?
So who exactly are the people truly outraged by this and not the much more serious issues? What rock do they reside under?
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