Can we trust WDIV's reporting in view of Sean McLaughlin's edicts?

[km1125]

Do you ever wonder how much of your monthly DTE energy bill goes towards their advertising? Seems like they constantly have ads on every channel. Every sports venue is full of DTE banners. They sponsor all kinds of events around the state (or at least the eastern half of the state).

As a utility, there are very few markets around where they actually compete with anyone. What's all the advertising for?

And all the stations just use DTE quoted rates when they're talking about costs. NOT the actual rate. Look at YOUR total bill and divide by the kWh that month and see what YOUR actual $/kW is and compare with what the "news" says next time there's a story. Couldn't a reporter do that same thing and realize they're spouting 'fake news'? And they never mention we have some of the HIGHEST rates in the country (especially if you remove AK and HI, which have legitimate reasons for having high rates!)

But they don't do that with gasoline stations.... they use the total pump price, which is the actual price a consumer would pay.

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Do you ever wonder how much of your monthly DTE energy bill goes towards their advertising? Seems like they constantly have ads on every channel. Every sports venue is full of DTE banners. They sponsor all kinds of events around the state (or at least the eastern half of the state).

As a utility, there are very few markets around where they actually compete with anyone. What's all the advertising for?

And all the stations just use DTE quoted rates when they're talking about costs. NOT the actual rate. Look at YOUR total bill and divide by the kWh that month and see what YOUR actual $/kW is and compare with what the "news" says next time there's a story. Couldn't a reporter do that same thing and realize they're spouting 'fake news'? And they never mention we have some of the HIGHEST rates in the country (especially if you remove AK and HI, which have legitimate reasons for having high rates!)

But they don't do that with gasoline stations.... they use the total pump price, which is the actual price a consumer would pay.

Are you suggesting taking the total electric price for the month which surely includes fees and other things besides electricity and dividing that by how many KWH were used to get a new “true” price?

[km1125]

Do you ever wonder how much of your monthly DTE energy bill goes towards their advertising? Seems like they constantly have ads on every channel. Every sports venue is full of DTE banners. They sponsor all kinds of events around the state (or at least the eastern half of the state).

As a utility, there are very few markets around where they actually compete with anyone. What's all the advertising for?

And all the stations just use DTE quoted rates when they're talking about costs. NOT the actual rate. Look at YOUR total bill and divide by the kWh that month and see what YOUR actual $/kW is and compare with what the "news" says next time there's a story. Couldn't a reporter do that same thing and realize they're spouting 'fake news'? And they never mention we have some of the HIGHEST rates in the country (especially if you remove AK and HI, which have legitimate reasons for having high rates!)

But they don't do that with gasoline stations.... they use the total pump price, which is the actual price a consumer would pay.

Are you suggesting taking the total electric price for the month which surely includes fees and other things besides electricity and dividing that by how many KWH were used to get a new “true” price?

Absolutely. You do that when you buy gasoline, don't you?

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Do you ever wonder how much of your monthly DTE energy bill goes towards their advertising? Seems like they constantly have ads on every channel. Every sports venue is full of DTE banners. They sponsor all kinds of events around the state (or at least the eastern half of the state).

As a utility, there are very few markets around where they actually compete with anyone. What's all the advertising for?

And all the stations just use DTE quoted rates when they're talking about costs. NOT the actual rate. Look at YOUR total bill and divide by the kWh that month and see what YOUR actual $/kW is and compare with what the "news" says next time there's a story. Couldn't a reporter do that same thing and realize they're spouting 'fake news'? And they never mention we have some of the HIGHEST rates in the country (especially if you remove AK and HI, which have legitimate reasons for having high rates!)

But they don't do that with gasoline stations.... they use the total pump price, which is the actual price a consumer would pay.

Are you suggesting taking the total electric price for the month which surely includes fees and other things besides electricity and dividing that by how many KWH were used to get a new “true” price?

Absolutely. You do that when you buy gasoline, don't you?

I go to the same place and just get gas… then I look at the price and go “well how bout that $3.33 a gallon” and start pumping gas.

[km1125]

Do you ever wonder how much of your monthly DTE energy bill goes towards their advertising? Seems like they constantly have ads on every channel. Every sports venue is full of DTE banners. They sponsor all kinds of events around the state (or at least the eastern half of the state).

As a utility, there are very few markets around where they actually compete with anyone. What's all the advertising for?

And all the stations just use DTE quoted rates when they're talking about costs. NOT the actual rate. Look at YOUR total bill and divide by the kWh that month and see what YOUR actual $/kW is and compare with what the "news" says next time there's a story. Couldn't a reporter do that same thing and realize they're spouting 'fake news'? And they never mention we have some of the HIGHEST rates in the country (especially if you remove AK and HI, which have legitimate reasons for having high rates!)

But they don't do that with gasoline stations.... they use the total pump price, which is the actual price a consumer would pay.

Are you suggesting taking the total electric price for the month which surely includes fees and other things besides electricity and dividing that by how many KWH were used to get a new “true” price?

Absolutely. You do that when you buy gasoline, don't you?

I go to the same place and just get gas… then I look at the price and go “well how bout that $3.33 a gallon” and start pumping gas.

Ok, so what? This thread is about REPORTERS and whether or not you can trust them. When reporters report on local gasoline prices, they use whatever is listed on the signs or pumps, which is an "all-in" price that consumers pay. When they report on electric prices they just use the price the utilities state for "per kW", even though that is a FRACTION of the total cost to the consumer. We have some of the highest rates in the nation and they're not helping educate their viewers at all on the real cost of running that A/C or leaving those lights on, and the sole beneficiary is the local power company like like DTE or Consumers Energy.

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Do you ever wonder how much of your monthly DTE energy bill goes towards their advertising? Seems like they constantly have ads on every channel. Every sports venue is full of DTE banners. They sponsor all kinds of events around the state (or at least the eastern half of the state).

As a utility, there are very few markets around where they actually compete with anyone. What's all the advertising for?

And all the stations just use DTE quoted rates when they're talking about costs. NOT the actual rate. Look at YOUR total bill and divide by the kWh that month and see what YOUR actual $/kW is and compare with what the "news" says next time there's a story. Couldn't a reporter do that same thing and realize they're spouting 'fake news'? And they never mention we have some of the HIGHEST rates in the country (especially if you remove AK and HI, which have legitimate reasons for having high rates!)

But they don't do that with gasoline stations.... they use the total pump price, which is the actual price a consumer would pay.

Are you suggesting taking the total electric price for the month which surely includes fees and other things besides electricity and dividing that by how many KWH were used to get a new “true” price?

Absolutely. You do that when you buy gasoline, don't you?

I go to the same place and just get gas… then I look at the price and go “well how bout that $3.33 a gallon” and start pumping gas.

Ok, so what? This thread is about REPORTERS and whether or not you can trust them. When reporters report on local gasoline prices, they use whatever is listed on the signs or pumps, which is an "all-in" price that consumers pay. When they report on electric prices they just use the price the utilities state for "per kW", even though that is a FRACTION of the total cost to the consumer. We have some of the highest rates in the nation and they're not helping educate their viewers at all on the real cost of running that A/C or leaving those lights on, and the sole beneficiary is the local power company like like DTE or Consumers Energy.

Did it ever occur to you that different bills would show different amounts of extra stuff and thus give people different total bills? Therefore the only static part of the bill is the state regulated rates… your “yeah but all this other stuff will give you a true kWh rate!” Completely disintegrates if everybody has a different number for 17 different reasons… and then try to put 80,000 different numbers on a graphic or explain it in 30 seconds and explain it to the dumbest people you can find so they get it too. You’re nuts. There likely isn’t a single number as a final price to show people and say “here is the true cost!”. Maybe you could make an average out of it. Looking at my bill though… it looks like what I thought… the only thing static is the rates and there are 6 different ones plus four other small fees. I used almost 900kwh last month but there is no clean way to do what you are suggesting to get an actual kWh price out of this. I’m also in the MIGreenPower initiative and that added $1.11 to the bill. Who knows who has what adjustments like that from other programs… no way man.

[dial-it-in]

There is no legitimate reason for DTE to advertise as much as it does.

[Scooter]

There is no legitimate reason for DTE to advertise as much as it does.

Yes, they are the only company that advertises you NOT to use their products and set your thermostat to 78 degrees. Who does that? Please stop all DTE advertisements except for public safety and lower our bills.

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[SolidGoldDancers]

There is no legitimate reason for DTE to advertise as much as it does.

Yes, they are the only company that advertises you NOT to use their products and set your thermostat to 78 degrees. Who does that? Please stop all DTE advertisements except for public safety and lower our bills.

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Mofos cut a deal with Ecobee and put everyone "Eco+". That essentially made normal rate payers a sort of interruptible service without the discounted rate. Those who did opt in for the $50 yearly bill credit do receive some benefit, but for those who were silently changed, that money probably went to Generac.

I noticed strange behavior a few years ago during the incident where DTE had a gas pumping station problem and everyone was asked to turn down the heat demand. My temperature settings were not following the schedule despite not being a DTE gas customer. Then during the ten day spell of 90 degree weather in June, my Ecobee was again deviating from the schedule and was off by as much as two degrees. That is how I stumbled across what had been loaded on my thermostat.

The Ecobee is now gone.

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

Do you ever wonder how much of your monthly DTE energy bill goes towards their advertising? Seems like they constantly have ads on every channel. Every sports venue is full of DTE banners. They sponsor all kinds of events around the state (or at least the eastern half of the state).

As a utility, there are very few markets around where they actually compete with anyone. What's all the advertising for?

And all the stations just use DTE quoted rates when they're talking about costs. NOT the actual rate. Look at YOUR total bill and divide by the kWh that month and see what YOUR actual $/kW is and compare with what the "news" says next time there's a story. Couldn't a reporter do that same thing and realize they're spouting 'fake news'? And they never mention we have some of the HIGHEST rates in the country (especially if you remove AK and HI, which have legitimate reasons for having high rates!)

But they don't do that with gasoline stations.... they use the total pump price, which is the actual price a consumer would pay.

Keep competition out. That simple. I used to work there. People don't realize that 20 years ago they nearly lost Ann Arbor to another electric provider.

[audiophile]

Ads for pre-storm and post storm are probably a good idea, stay away from downed wires, etc. Beyond that there is no need.

[Michiganviewer]

Stopped trusting WDIV when they pushed a narrative in 2020 that turned out to be a small head cold as shown in the last couple years.