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It's the McCarthy era all over again

It's worse, all McCarthy had was fear mongering, the conservative media and a pack of fools. This idiot has Executive Orders.

And a majority of American's that voted for him and what he said he would do if elected. Wouldn't the organized opposition be a threat to our democracy by trying to interfere with the results of an election?

A majority of those who voted… otherwise known as 30% or so of Americans pal.

[Hugh Jorgan]

It's the McCarthy era all over again

It's worse, all McCarthy had was fear mongering, the conservative media and a pack of fools. This idiot has Executive Orders.

And a majority of American's that voted for him and what he said he would do if elected. Wouldn't the organized opposition be a threat to our democracy by trying to interfere with the results of an election?

A majority of those who voted… otherwise known as 30% or so of Americans pal.

I'm sorry, but I'm new to this board. Is it proper etiquette here to jump into responses directed at someone else?

[Motown322]

How long before this newest version of LL101 gets booted?

[Turkeytop]

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I'm sorry, but I'm new to this board. Is it proper etiquette here to jump into responses directed at someone else?

Are you really new here, or just a retread of a former user?

[Hugh Jorgan]

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I'm sorry, but I'm new to this board. Is it proper etiquette here to jump into responses directed at someone else?

Are you really new here, or just a retread of a former user?

Stranger things have been known to happen my canukian friend.

[Chrocket87]

It's the McCarthy era all over again

It's worse, all McCarthy had was fear mongering, the conservative media and a pack of fools. This idiot has Executive Orders.

And a majority of American's that voted for him and what he said he would do if elected. Wouldn't the organized opposition be a threat to our democracy by trying to interfere with the results of an election?

A majority of those who voted… otherwise known as 30% or so of Americans pal.

I'm sorry, but I'm new to this board. Is it proper etiquette here to jump into responses directed at someone else?

Well, in most public discussion boards, it’s commonplace for people to read and respond to any post made by anybody, regardless of who it’s directed at.

If you wanted only that one person to respond, you can send them a private message. This can be accessed by clicking on the user’s name and then selecting “send private message” on the screen that pops up. Hope this helps!

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It's the McCarthy era all over again

It's worse, all McCarthy had was fear mongering, the conservative media and a pack of fools. This idiot has Executive Orders.

And a majority of American's that voted for him and what he said he would do if elected. Wouldn't the organized opposition be a threat to our democracy by trying to interfere with the results of an election?

What are you talking about?

[zzand]

He doesn't know what he is talking about as usual

[bmw]

A majority of those who voted… otherwise known as 30% or so of Americans pal.

And even fewer than that voted for the other side.

[bmw]

And a majority of American's that voted for him and what he said he would do if elected. Wouldn't the organized opposition be a threat to our democracy by trying to interfere with the results of an election?

Except we don't live in a democracy. We live in a republic. And in a republic, the minority party, aka the opposition party, also hold a significant amount of power, albeit less power than the majority party.

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A majority of those who voted… otherwise known as 30% or so of Americans pal.

And even fewer than that voted for the other side.

Albeit barely. My point is around 40% of the voting population and even more than that if you factor in the total population has been hijacked and who knows what the actual agreement is with this stuff.

One thing is certain. No mandate, no landslide, not even a significant victory. They eeked it out.

[bmw]

As to all of those on the left criticizing and complaining about all of Trump's executive orders - your President last time around started the precedent. Trump only signed 1 executive order on his first day in 2017. That was in-line with past presidents, Obama having signed two, George W none, and Clinton one. Then came Biden who signed a record-shattering 17 of them on his first day. This CNN article is an entertaining read considering all of the criticism being levied at Trump this time around. Just an excerpt:

President Joe Biden is finalizing 17 executive moves just hours after his inauguration Wednesday, moving faster and more aggressively to dismantle his predecessor’s legacy than any other modern president. Biden is signing a flurry of executive orders, memorandums and directives to agencies, his first steps to address the coronavirus pandemic and undo some of former President Donald Trump’s signature policies.

“There’s no time to start like today,” Biden told reporters in the Oval Office as he began signing a stack of orders and memoranda. “I’m going to start by keeping the promises I made to the American people.”

With the stroke of a pen, Biden has halted funding for the construction of Trump’s border wall, reversed his travel ban targeting largely Muslim countries and embraced progressive policies on the environment and diversity that Trump spent four years blocking.

Biden also reversed several of Trump’s attempts to withdraw from international agreements, beginning the process of rejoining the Paris climate accord and halting the United States’ departure from the World Health Organization – where Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease expert, will lead the US delegation.

His first action was to impose a mask mandate on federal property, a break in approach to dealing with the pandemic from Trump, who repeatedly downplayed the virus. Biden also installed a coronavirus response coordinator to oversee the White House’s efforts to distribute vaccines and medical supplies.

Press secretary Jen Psaki and other top Biden officials had told reporters on the eve of his inauguration that the first-day actions are only part of what will be a series of moves to undo Trump policies and implement Biden’s campaign promises in his first weeks in office. He plans to follow Inauguration Day by centering each day of January on a specific theme, according to a draft of a calendar document sent to administration allies and viewed by CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/po ... ve-orders/

So you can thank your buddy Joe Biden for creating this precedent - and as Biden said in his own words, using executive actions to "keep[] the promises I made to the American people." And you must all support it because I don't recall a single one of you lodging one single complaint, gripe, or criticism of any of Biden's executive orders.

[MegaHertz]

I'm starting to think bmw stands for "Biden Memories Writer".

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As to all of those on the left criticizing and complaining about all of Trump's executive orders - your President last time around started the precedent. Trump only signed 1 executive order on his first day in 2017. That was in-line with past presidents, Obama having signed two, George W none, and Clinton one. Then came Biden who signed a record-shattering 17 of them on his first day. This CNN article is an entertaining read considering all of the criticism being levied at Trump this time around. Just an excerpt:

President Joe Biden is finalizing 17 executive moves just hours after his inauguration Wednesday, moving faster and more aggressively to dismantle his predecessor’s legacy than any other modern president. Biden is signing a flurry of executive orders, memorandums and directives to agencies, his first steps to address the coronavirus pandemic and undo some of former President Donald Trump’s signature policies.

“There’s no time to start like today,” Biden told reporters in the Oval Office as he began signing a stack of orders and memoranda. “I’m going to start by keeping the promises I made to the American people.”

With the stroke of a pen, Biden has halted funding for the construction of Trump’s border wall, reversed his travel ban targeting largely Muslim countries and embraced progressive policies on the environment and diversity that Trump spent four years blocking.

Biden also reversed several of Trump’s attempts to withdraw from international agreements, beginning the process of rejoining the Paris climate accord and halting the United States’ departure from the World Health Organization – where Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious disease expert, will lead the US delegation.

His first action was to impose a mask mandate on federal property, a break in approach to dealing with the pandemic from Trump, who repeatedly downplayed the virus. Biden also installed a coronavirus response coordinator to oversee the White House’s efforts to distribute vaccines and medical supplies.

Press secretary Jen Psaki and other top Biden officials had told reporters on the eve of his inauguration that the first-day actions are only part of what will be a series of moves to undo Trump policies and implement Biden’s campaign promises in his first weeks in office. He plans to follow Inauguration Day by centering each day of January on a specific theme, according to a draft of a calendar document sent to administration allies and viewed by CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/po ... ve-orders/

So you can thank your buddy Joe Biden for creating this precedent - and as Biden said in his own words, using executive actions to "keep[] the promises I made to the American people." And you must all support it because I don't recall a single one of you lodging one single complaint, gripe, or criticism of any of Biden's executive orders.

Unfortunately the damage done under Trump V1.0 necessitated more desperate measures than average. It’s not about the number or even whether they do it or not. It’s about the content of the orders.

[bmw]

I'm starting to think bmw stands for "Biden Memories Writer".

Ignore precedent at your own peril. That's why the executive branch gets more powerful with each administration. Except Biden put that concept on steroids when it comes to executive orders. As did our wonderful governor in the state of Michigan (though her 172 Covid-related EO's - more than any other governor in the nation - were all found to be unconstitutional).

So you can sit there and try to pretend that the Biden presidency never happened and/or is irrelevant to the way the Trump administration is behaving, but that's a rather naive way of looking at Presidential power and politics.

Unfortunately the damage done under Trump V1.0 necessitated more desperate measures than average. It’s not about the number or even whether they do it or not. It’s about the content of the orders.

That's an entirely subjective take. And the people who put Trump back into power did so because they have the exact same subjective take about the damage done under Joe Biden.

If you want my honest opinion - I'd rather see much of what Trump is doing get done with Congressional approval. I'd also like to see traditional budgets as opposed to constantly being on the edge of government shutdowns and continuing resolutions. But both of those cats are already out of the bag and I'm not sure how you go about putting them back in, if that is at all possible anyways.