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Washington Post regrets staying neutral

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Washington Post regrets staying neutral

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Yesterday the Washington Post declared this:
A debate inside The Washington Post continued for days among its top leaders: Should it make an endorsement in the presidential race, continuing a decades-long tradition?

In the end, Jeff Bezos, the paper’s billionaire owner, decided that the answer was no.

On Friday, Will Lewis, The Post’s chief executive, told the newsroom that the paper would no longer endorse presidential candidates. His announcement came after the debate and decision by Mr. Bezos, a person with knowledge of the talks said. By that time, the paper’s opinion section had drafted an endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris, according to four people with knowledge of the process.

“The Washington Post will not be making an endorsement of a presidential candidate in this election,” Mr. Lewis wrote in a note to the staff. “Nor in any future presidential election. We are returning to our roots of not endorsing presidential candidates.”
Today, 8 hours later, they are taking it in the shorts...
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And this:
The first prominent journalist, editor-at-large Robert Kagan, resigned Friday in response to the decision, Semafor first reported. But there may be more: “people are shocked, furious, surprised,” said an editorial board member, citing internal discussions around resignation. “If you don’t have the balls to own a newspaper, don’t.”
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TC Talks wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 2:56 pm Yesterday the Washington Post declared this:
A debate inside The Washington Post continued for days among its top leaders: Should it make an endorsement in the presidential race, continuing a decades-long tradition?

In the end, Jeff Bezos, the paper’s billionaire owner, decided that the answer was no.

On Friday, Will Lewis, The Post’s chief executive, told the newsroom that the paper would no longer endorse presidential candidates. His announcement came after the debate and decision by Mr. Bezos, a person with knowledge of the talks said. By that time, the paper’s opinion section had drafted an endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris, according to four people with knowledge of the process.

“The Washington Post will not be making an endorsement of a presidential candidate in this election,” Mr. Lewis wrote in a note to the staff. “Nor in any future presidential election. We are returning to our roots of not endorsing presidential candidates.”
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There may be some fear of retribution against Amazon by Trump and that’s what gave Bezos pause. If so it’s just another example of someone afraid of being added to Trumps retribution world tour.
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The LA Times also chose not to endorse and the owner blocks the Editor.
L.A. Times Editorial Chief Quits After Owner Blocks Harris Endorsement
Mariel Garza said the editorial board was prepared to endorse Kamala Harris, but the paper’s owner, Patrick Soon-Shiong, decided not to make an endorsement in the presidential race.
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Ask BMW, Trump is NOTHING like Hitler...

This is terrifying that newspapers are scared to speak up against the fascist.
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Matt wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:32 pm Ask BMW, Trump is NOTHING like Hitler...

This is terrifying that newspapers are scared to speak up against the fascist.

Self censorship. Next they'll be endorsing Trump.

They're as weak kneed as the Teamsters Union.
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Turkeytop wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:02 pm
Matt wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:32 pm Ask BMW, Trump is NOTHING like Hitler...

This is terrifying that newspapers are scared to speak up against the fascist.

Self censorship. Next they'll be endorsing Trump.
That’s exactly the kind of thing that’ll happen. He’s effectively bullying the press into shutting up.
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Rate This wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:09 pm
Turkeytop wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:02 pm


Self censorship. Next they'll be endorsing Trump.
That’s exactly the kind of thing that’ll happen. He’s effectively bullying the press into shutting up.
They need to show some spine.
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Turkeytop wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:04 pm
Rate This wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:09 pm
Turkeytop wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:02 pm


Self censorship. Next they'll be endorsing Trump.
That’s exactly the kind of thing that’ll happen. He’s effectively bullying the press into shutting up.
They need to show some spine.
In a different environment there would be more spine. If this were the labor movement era that got the UAW going in the 1930’s or the civil rights movement in the 1950’s and 60’s you would have people willing to die for their ideas. I don’t think we are there yet. We will get there again but when is the question.
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The Washington Post was the first to expose the Watergate scandal.
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Turkeytop wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:21 pm The Washington Post was the first to expose the Watergate scandal.
That’s my point… this crop of journalists and activists and general citizens are pretty milquetoast and not likely to challenge authority or rock the boat. Things move in cycles. Sooner or later it’ll come back. The real phenomenon that seems to be happening is we are either entering or in the midst of a second guilded age. That’s not great for the little guy. Once people get tired of it in enough quantities you get something like the progressive era of major reforms.
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Turkeytop wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:21 pm The Washington Post was the first to expose the Watergate scandal.
Which is nothing compared to blocking the modern day Hitler.
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So the staff throws a hissy fit because the paper declined to endorse Harris, but yet they expect everyone to believe they are fair and impartial in their reporting.
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Graham Wellington wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:18 pm So the staff throws a hissy fit because the paper declined to endorse Harris, but yet they expect everyone to believe they are fair and impartial in their reporting.
The editorial board was writing the endorsement and it came down from on high to scrap it. So they didn’t decline to endorse at all. The staff wanted to and was in fact working on it. But the editorial board at a newspaper endorsing a candidate has become a tradition. It doesn’t mean the news people can’t be impartial. Those are two separate parts of the paper. It isn’t surprising the staff are up in arms… not because they are a bunch of angry screaming liberals but because they wanted to have a role in whether democracy lives or dies in this country. Likely they feel the journalistic duty to plainly say who Trump is and what he represents and why he should never have power. Now they don’t get that chance.

Newspaper endorsements probably don’t matter like they once did but the perception of an endorsement being scrapped might to an uninformed voter who hears about it.
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Matt wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:00 pm
Turkeytop wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:21 pm The Washington Post was the first to expose the Watergate scandal.
Which is nothing compared to blocking the modern day Hitler.
I still recall the day Nixon resigned. I actually felt a certain amount of sympathy for him and the humiliation he must have felt.

Nothing that could happen to Trump would ever arouse in me feelings of sympathy. He is completely incapable of feeling humiliation or shame.
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Rate This wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:25 pm
Graham Wellington wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:18 pm So the staff throws a hissy fit because the paper declined to endorse Harris, but yet they expect everyone to believe they are fair and impartial in their reporting.
Likely they feel the journalistic duty to plainly say who Trump is and what he represents and why he should never have power. Now they don’t get that chance.
That's not being impartial. Those are the angry screaming liberals you mentioned masquerading as reporters.
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