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GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
- MotorCityRadioFreak
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
And I worked for DTE and monitored grid loads everyday for several years. What do I know? I would see grids working at 100% during July. I am not saying it will be every day that will be a problem, but they keep decommissioning power plants and they don't have the wind and solar yet to keep up. I hope they do, but they don't now. Yes, if you are serving the TC Bay area And like I said, they do need to keep combustion options available for the poor. I can barely keep up with my electric bill now. I moved in here 15 years ago, and I paid $45 a month for my usage at the time. Now, same usage(maybe less due to CFL's etc) and my bill is $122 a month. Big increase.
Now, yeah, if all you service is Grand Traverse and Leelanau counties and have craploads of solar and wind farms off the coast, you would be fine. It's not an apples to apples comparison with metro Detroit.
Now, yeah, if all you service is Grand Traverse and Leelanau counties and have craploads of solar and wind farms off the coast, you would be fine. It's not an apples to apples comparison with metro Detroit.
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
How many dollars are you spending on gas? Divide that by 4 and you have your new monthly energy cost for transportation. The transition to EV won't eliminate used cars.
When cars were first introduced, people still rode horses for decades. We still have horses.
DTE is about to get it's nuts in a vice for their outage records. They are the worst operator in the state. I expect the MPSC to be motivating them soon.
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DTE is about to get it's nuts in a vice for their outage records. They are the worst operator in the state. I expect the MPSC to be motivating them soon.
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
100%MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:43 pm And I worked for DTE and monitored grid loads everyday for several years. What do I know? I would see grids working at 100% during July. I am not saying it will be every day that will be a problem, but they keep decommissioning power plants and they don't have the wind and solar yet to keep up. I hope they do, but they don't now. Yes, if you are serving the TC Bay area And like I said, they do need to keep combustion options available for the poor. I can barely keep up with my electric bill now. I moved in here 15 years ago, and I paid $45 a month for my usage at the time. Now, same usage(maybe less due to CFL's etc) and my bill is $122 a month. Big increase.
Now, yeah, if all you service is Grand Traverse and Leelanau counties and have craploads of solar and wind farms off the coast, you would be fine. It's not an apples to apples comparison with metro Detroit.
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
I guess you two are going to be out of luck. Manufacturers seem to be interested in moving forward.audiophile wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:48 am100%MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:43 pm And I worked for DTE and monitored grid loads everyday for several years. What do I know? I would see grids working at 100% during July. I am not saying it will be every day that will be a problem, but they keep decommissioning power plants and they don't have the wind and solar yet to keep up. I hope they do, but they don't now. Yes, if you are serving the TC Bay area And like I said, they do need to keep combustion options available for the poor. I can barely keep up with my electric bill now. I moved in here 15 years ago, and I paid $45 a month for my usage at the time. Now, same usage(maybe less due to CFL's etc) and my bill is $122 a month. Big increase.
Now, yeah, if all you service is Grand Traverse and Leelanau counties and have craploads of solar and wind farms off the coast, you would be fine. It's not an apples to apples comparison with metro Detroit.
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- MotorCityRadioFreak
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
I guess I am an old curmudgeon when it comes to cars. Ever since around 2015, the amount of sensors and other shit cause stupid malfunctions to a car. Some of us just like our vehicles to be simple and just drive. BTW, try driving an EV in the U.P., and you will be SOL.TC Talks wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:03 amI guess you two are going to be out of luck. Manufacturers seem to be interested in moving forward.audiophile wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:48 am100%MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:43 pm And I worked for DTE and monitored grid loads everyday for several years. What do I know? I would see grids working at 100% during July. I am not saying it will be every day that will be a problem, but they keep decommissioning power plants and they don't have the wind and solar yet to keep up. I hope they do, but they don't now. Yes, if you are serving the TC Bay area And like I said, they do need to keep combustion options available for the poor. I can barely keep up with my electric bill now. I moved in here 15 years ago, and I paid $45 a month for my usage at the time. Now, same usage(maybe less due to CFL's etc) and my bill is $122 a month. Big increase.
Now, yeah, if all you service is Grand Traverse and Leelanau counties and have craploads of solar and wind farms off the coast, you would be fine. It's not an apples to apples comparison with metro Detroit.
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NEVER EVER COMPLY WITH FASCISM!!!
The right needs to stop worry about what’s between people’s legs. Instead, they should focus on what’s between their ears.
Audacity sucks.
Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
Heard Slotkin's ad the other day where she said she can't have an EV because "I live on a dirt road, and there's no chargers around there". Hmmmm. I didn't know dirt roads were a challenge for EVs, nor some kind of complication for putting in chargers. I thought most folks could charge at home overnight too.
Are the feds going to have to cough up funds in their EV budgets to pave all the dirt roads in the country?
Hmmmm.
Are the feds going to have to cough up funds in their EV budgets to pave all the dirt roads in the country?
Hmmmm.
Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
It’s an ad highlighting her support for expanding charging infrastructure.km1125 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:25 am Heard Slotkin's ad the other day where she said she can't have an EV because "I live on a dirt road, and there's no chargers around there". Hmmmm. I didn't know dirt roads were a challenge for EVs, nor some kind of complication for putting in chargers. I thought most folks could charge at home overnight too.
Are the feds going to have to cough up funds in their EV budgets to pave all the dirt roads in the country?
Hmmmm.
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
Only roads of illegal migrants.km1125 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:25 am Heard Slotkin's ad the other day where she said she can't have an EV because "I live on a dirt road, and there's no chargers around there". Hmmmm. I didn't know dirt roads were a challenge for EVs, nor some kind of complication for putting in chargers. I thought most folks could charge at home overnight too.
Are the feds going to have to cough up funds in their EV budgets to pave all the dirt roads in the country?
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
My mom just wants a key to start up the car and she is content with that she'll never buy an EV. I think a lot just want it simple and not all those bells & whistles on cars.MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:17 pmI guess I am an old curmudgeon when it comes to cars. Ever since around 2015, the amount of sensors and other shit cause stupid malfunctions to a car. Some of us just like our vehicles to be simple and just drive. BTW, try driving an EV in the U.P., and you will be SOL.TC Talks wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:03 amI guess you two are going to be out of luck. Manufacturers seem to be interested in moving forward.audiophile wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:48 am100%MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:43 pm And I worked for DTE and monitored grid loads everyday for several years. What do I know? I would see grids working at 100% during July. I am not saying it will be every day that will be a problem, but they keep decommissioning power plants and they don't have the wind and solar yet to keep up. I hope they do, but they don't now. Yes, if you are serving the TC Bay area And like I said, they do need to keep combustion options available for the poor. I can barely keep up with my electric bill now. I moved in here 15 years ago, and I paid $45 a month for my usage at the time. Now, same usage(maybe less due to CFL's etc) and my bill is $122 a month. Big increase.
Now, yeah, if all you service is Grand Traverse and Leelanau counties and have craploads of solar and wind farms off the coast, you would be fine. It's not an apples to apples comparison with metro Detroit.
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
EVs have only a few moving parts, plus, no more dealership maintence service, oil changes or gas stations. Tesla doesn't have a start button, just get in and press drive.MasterB wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:31 amMy mom just wants a key to start up the car and she is content with that she'll never buy an EV. I think a lot just want it simple and not all those bells & whistles on cars.MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:17 pmI guess I am an old curmudgeon when it comes to cars. Ever since around 2015, the amount of sensors and other shit cause stupid malfunctions to a car. Some of us just like our vehicles to be simple and just drive. BTW, try driving an EV in the U.P., and you will be SOL.TC Talks wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:03 amI guess you two are going to be out of luck. Manufacturers seem to be interested in moving forward.audiophile wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:48 am100%MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:43 pm And I worked for DTE and monitored grid loads everyday for several years. What do I know? I would see grids working at 100% during July. I am not saying it will be every day that will be a problem, but they keep decommissioning power plants and they don't have the wind and solar yet to keep up. I hope they do, but they don't now. Yes, if you are serving the TC Bay area And like I said, they do need to keep combustion options available for the poor. I can barely keep up with my electric bill now. I moved in here 15 years ago, and I paid $45 a month for my usage at the time. Now, same usage(maybe less due to CFL's etc) and my bill is $122 a month. Big increase.
Now, yeah, if all you service is Grand Traverse and Leelanau counties and have craploads of solar and wind farms off the coast, you would be fine. It's not an apples to apples comparison with metro Detroit.
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- MotorCityRadioFreak
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
Interesting because the Rogers ad I heard today said and this is an actual quote “Slotkin would ban cars and electing her would be a car wreck.” MAGA can’t keep their talking points straight.km1125 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:25 am Heard Slotkin's ad the other day where she said she can't have an EV because "I live on a dirt road, and there's no chargers around there". Hmmmm. I didn't know dirt roads were a challenge for EVs, nor some kind of complication for putting in chargers. I thought most folks could charge at home overnight too.
Are the feds going to have to cough up funds in their EV budgets to pave all the dirt roads in the country?
Hmmmm.
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
Gas powered cars are far from being simple vehicles nowadays. However, I get it. I have several stubborn Boomers in my life who refuse to consider that new things may actually benefit them. The most coddled generation in modern history.MasterB wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:31 amMy mom just wants a key to start up the car and she is content with that she'll never buy an EV. I think a lot just want it simple and not all those bells & whistles on cars.MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:17 pmI guess I am an old curmudgeon when it comes to cars. Ever since around 2015, the amount of sensors and other shit cause stupid malfunctions to a car. Some of us just like our vehicles to be simple and just drive. BTW, try driving an EV in the U.P., and you will be SOL.TC Talks wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:03 amI guess you two are going to be out of luck. Manufacturers seem to be interested in moving forward.audiophile wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:48 am100%MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:43 pm And I worked for DTE and monitored grid loads everyday for several years. What do I know? I would see grids working at 100% during July. I am not saying it will be every day that will be a problem, but they keep decommissioning power plants and they don't have the wind and solar yet to keep up. I hope they do, but they don't now. Yes, if you are serving the TC Bay area And like I said, they do need to keep combustion options available for the poor. I can barely keep up with my electric bill now. I moved in here 15 years ago, and I paid $45 a month for my usage at the time. Now, same usage(maybe less due to CFL's etc) and my bill is $122 a month. Big increase.
Now, yeah, if all you service is Grand Traverse and Leelanau counties and have craploads of solar and wind farms off the coast, you would be fine. It's not an apples to apples comparison with metro Detroit.
Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
It's the "Rules for thee and not for ME" syndrome with her.MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:18 amInteresting because the Rogers ad I heard today said and this is an actual quote “Slotkin would ban cars and electing her would be a car wreck.” MAGA can’t keep their talking points straight.km1125 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:25 am Heard Slotkin's ad the other day where she said she can't have an EV because "I live on a dirt road, and there's no chargers around there". Hmmmm. I didn't know dirt roads were a challenge for EVs, nor some kind of complication for putting in chargers. I thought most folks could charge at home overnight too.
Are the feds going to have to cough up funds in their EV budgets to pave all the dirt roads in the country?
Hmmmm.
Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
Or there is some logical reason and you missed it.km1125 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:45 amIt's the "Rules for thee and not for ME" syndrome with her.MotorCityRadioFreak wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2024 6:18 amInteresting because the Rogers ad I heard today said and this is an actual quote “Slotkin would ban cars and electing her would be a car wreck.” MAGA can’t keep their talking points straight.km1125 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 08, 2024 9:25 am Heard Slotkin's ad the other day where she said she can't have an EV because "I live on a dirt road, and there's no chargers around there". Hmmmm. I didn't know dirt roads were a challenge for EVs, nor some kind of complication for putting in chargers. I thought most folks could charge at home overnight too.
Are the feds going to have to cough up funds in their EV budgets to pave all the dirt roads in the country?
Hmmmm.
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Re: GM on track to be 100% EV by 2035
I have reached a month owning an EV. I have taken two road trips and plenty of local driving...
Benefits: 1200 miles at a cost of $29.10 in power at the discounted home rate (.077 per kW) and the supercharger cost (.41 kW)
- Cost of ownership is incredible, like 25% of a gas vehicle. Anyone who is a cheapskate who doesn't drive long distances very often should look hard at an EV. The rebates, and resale values are better than most luxury cars out there.
- No need for gas station stops, other associated service costs. The convenience of home charging is noticeable.
- Utility Credit for Home Outlet installation brought the cost to $42.
- I can get from Traverse City to Detroit with about 88% of a full charge, Grand Rapids in 61%.
- The dashboard and features are awesome, it took a while to learn, but it's intuitive.
No key, no start button, and you don't really brake.
-DSS (Autopilot) is freaky but does a great job. I drove from Auburn Hills to my house without touching the wheel except for a few construction zones where I lost my nerve.
Drawbacks: Supercharging takes longer than a gas stop.
- It is a bit souless. Like streaming vs vinyl. Fortunately, no one is making me shed my antiques.
- To go from 15% to 80% (which is a typical charge) takes 15 minutes. There are ample superchargers at every Meijer and many hotels. The car does have Netflix, Prime (my existing account) and Youtube while you wait.
- Autopilot doesn't work in Construction Zones very well.
- The non-tesla fast charger network is weak. I would be reluctant to own a GM, Ford or other EV at the moment.
- Limited service centers; although many repairs are done at your home or office by a mobile tech, bigger issues require you go to one of 5 service centers in the state. This is in part due to the NADA lobbying efforts. Tire rotation, and most service is done at your location or via software updates.
- I have noticed an increase of "Raised Truck Hillbillies" swerving in from of me. EV ownership is more polarizing than I knew.
In general, I have a bunch of speciality cars, but this is a winner for the daily driver. We have discussed trying to drive it across country, and that might take more planning, but I believe Love's truck stops will have a robust charging area soon. I don't know if I am ready to give up my Campervan.
What am I missing?
Benefits: 1200 miles at a cost of $29.10 in power at the discounted home rate (.077 per kW) and the supercharger cost (.41 kW)
- Cost of ownership is incredible, like 25% of a gas vehicle. Anyone who is a cheapskate who doesn't drive long distances very often should look hard at an EV. The rebates, and resale values are better than most luxury cars out there.
- No need for gas station stops, other associated service costs. The convenience of home charging is noticeable.
- Utility Credit for Home Outlet installation brought the cost to $42.
- I can get from Traverse City to Detroit with about 88% of a full charge, Grand Rapids in 61%.
- The dashboard and features are awesome, it took a while to learn, but it's intuitive.
No key, no start button, and you don't really brake.
-DSS (Autopilot) is freaky but does a great job. I drove from Auburn Hills to my house without touching the wheel except for a few construction zones where I lost my nerve.
Drawbacks: Supercharging takes longer than a gas stop.
- It is a bit souless. Like streaming vs vinyl. Fortunately, no one is making me shed my antiques.
- To go from 15% to 80% (which is a typical charge) takes 15 minutes. There are ample superchargers at every Meijer and many hotels. The car does have Netflix, Prime (my existing account) and Youtube while you wait.
- Autopilot doesn't work in Construction Zones very well.
- The non-tesla fast charger network is weak. I would be reluctant to own a GM, Ford or other EV at the moment.
- Limited service centers; although many repairs are done at your home or office by a mobile tech, bigger issues require you go to one of 5 service centers in the state. This is in part due to the NADA lobbying efforts. Tire rotation, and most service is done at your location or via software updates.
- I have noticed an increase of "Raised Truck Hillbillies" swerving in from of me. EV ownership is more polarizing than I knew.
In general, I have a bunch of speciality cars, but this is a winner for the daily driver. We have discussed trying to drive it across country, and that might take more planning, but I believe Love's truck stops will have a robust charging area soon. I don't know if I am ready to give up my Campervan.
What am I missing?
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