Joe Biden and Kamala Harris owe the world an apology for the perils they’ve created

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Reagan caused a breakup of Soviet Union, just by proposing the Star Wars program, along with his tough actions on domestic matters. I agree, in part, with his article that Biden/Harris created a big mess for US by being displaying weakness, Afghanistan being the first big one, but there is much more than that:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/jo ... ae97&ei=10

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Reagan caused a breakup of Soviet Union, just by proposing the Star Wars program, along with his tough actions on domestic matters. I agree, in part, with his article that Biden/Harris created a big mess for US by being displaying weakness, Afghanistan being the first big one, but there is much more than that:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/jo ... ae97&ei=10

The Soviet Union’s collapse was way more complicated that folks whose former fetish was Ronald Regan wish to understand.

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Ironically it was PBS program Frontline in the 1990's that claimed it was Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul II and Lech Walesa. They specifically referenced what I mentioned.

Were you even alive when Reagan was first elected? I remember the day the Iranian hostages were released. It was about strength.

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The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board article, out today, is even more pointed:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/op ... fc91&ei=31

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Ironically it was PBS program Frontline in the 1990's that claimed it was Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul II and Lech Walesa. They specifically referenced what I mentioned.

Were you even alive when Reagan was first elected? I remember the day the Iranian hostages were released. It was about strength.

He negotiated with the Iranian’s either before the election or during the transition. That’s extremely unethical. That also makes it sound like Carter didn’t try to get them out. He spent 400 some days trying.

[Matt]

So, any major problem occurring in a distant foreign land is the fault of the current U.S. President?

It's not the sloppiness of the withdrawal in Afghanistan that led to Russian aggression, it's the plain fact that we withdrew (irrespective of its smoothness or lack thereof) that arguably tempted Putin's aggression. Putin knows the U.S. citizenry is war weary. Populists are often isolationists. Trumpism is a populist movement. Isolationism makes it easier for foreign bad actors to do bad things.

Truthbomb.

[Honeyman]

So, any major problem occurring in a distant foreign land is the fault of the current U.S. President?

It's not the sloppiness of the withdrawal in Afghanistan that led to Russian aggression, it's the plain fact that we withdrew (irrespective of its smoothness or lack thereof) that arguably tempted Putin's aggression. Putin knows the U.S. citizenry is war weary. Populists are often isolationists. Trumpism is a populist movement. Isolationism makes it easier for foreign bad actors to do bad things.

Well said.

audiophile understands nuance like a young child. There is black and white and nothing in between.

[Matt]

So, any major problem occurring in a distant foreign land is the fault of the current U.S. President?

It's not the sloppiness of the withdrawal in Afghanistan that led to Russian aggression, it's the plain fact that we withdrew (irrespective of its smoothness or lack thereof) that arguably tempted Putin's aggression. Putin knows the U.S. citizenry is war weary. Populists are often isolationists. Trumpism is a populist movement. Isolationism makes it easier for foreign bad actors to do bad things.

Truthbomb.

Not to be confused with Truth Social.

They are called douche bombs.

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So, any major problem occurring in a distant foreign land is the fault of the current U.S. President?

It's not the sloppiness of the withdrawal in Afghanistan that led to Russian aggression, it's the plain fact that we withdrew (irrespective of its smoothness or lack thereof) that arguably tempted Putin's aggression. Putin knows the U.S. citizenry is war weary. Populists are often isolationists. Trumpism is a populist movement. Isolationism makes it easier for foreign bad actors to do bad things.

I agree we needed to stay on a small level to maintain stability, but the way the withdrawal was done was such display of incompetence and weakness, it was all Putin needed to laugh at us and think we are dumb AND weak. Don't forget Crimea happened under Obama/Biden. Weak, weak, weak.

Trump didn't pull out when he was president, even thought he could have. So, Trump's populism was tempered with hesitancy, unlike Biden who went full steam ahead without the so-called populism.

Trump going to meetings with many foreign leaders is not what one would call isolationism. Some of them were quite surprising, maybe even a little risky, so again that is not isolationism. (I don't think protectionism is the same as isolationism.)

Kamala met with so few leaders, and I don't think she will start, all of sudden, meeting with tough leaders - she even can't do a friggin' open press conference.

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So, any major problem occurring in a distant foreign land is the fault of the current U.S. President?

It's not the sloppiness of the withdrawal in Afghanistan that led to Russian aggression, it's the plain fact that we withdrew (irrespective of its smoothness or lack thereof) that arguably tempted Putin's aggression. Putin knows the U.S. citizenry is war weary. Populists are often isolationists. Trumpism is a populist movement. Isolationism makes it easier for foreign bad actors to do bad things.

I agree we needed to stay on a small level to maintain stability, but the way the withdrawal was done was such display of incompetence and weakness, it was all Putin needed to laugh at us and think we are dumb AND weak. Don't forget Crimea happened under Obama/Biden. Weak, weak, weak.

Trump didn't pull out when he was president, even thought he could have. So, Trump's populism was tempered with hesitancy, unlike Biden who went full steam ahead without the so-called populism.

Trump going to meetings with many foreign leaders is not what one would call isolationism. Some of them were quite surprising, maybe even a little risky, so again that is not isolationism. (I don't think protectionism is the same as isolationism.)

Kamala met with so few leaders, and I don't think she will start, all of sudden, meeting with tough leaders - she even can't do a friggin' open press conference.

They followed TRUMP's withdrawal plan that TRUMP brought the friggen TALIBAN (!) to CAMP DAVID (!!) to negotiate in 2019. The TALIBAN for fucks sake. The only reason Trump didn't pull out of Afghanistan as President is because he didn't make it that far.

[Matt]

So, any major problem occurring in a distant foreign land is the fault of the current U.S. President?

It's not the sloppiness of the withdrawal in Afghanistan that led to Russian aggression, it's the plain fact that we withdrew (irrespective of its smoothness or lack thereof) that arguably tempted Putin's aggression. Putin knows the U.S. citizenry is war weary. Populists are often isolationists. Trumpism is a populist movement. Isolationism makes it easier for foreign bad actors to do bad things.

I agree we needed to stay on a small level to maintain stability, but the way the withdrawal was done was such display of incompetence and weakness, it was all Putin needed to laugh at us and think we are dumb AND weak. Don't forget Crimea happened under Obama/Biden. Weak, weak, weak.

Trump didn't pull out when he was president, even thought he could have. So, Trump's populism was tempered with hesitancy, unlike Biden who went full steam ahead without the so-called populism.

Trump going to meetings with many foreign leaders is not what one would call isolationism. Some of them were quite surprising, maybe even a little risky, so again that is not isolationism. (I don't think protectionism is the same as isolationism.)

Kamala met with so few leaders, and I don't think she will start, all of sudden, meeting with tough leaders - she even can't do a friggin' open press conference.

They followed TRUMP's withdrawal plan that TRUMP brought the friggen TALIBAN (!) to CAMP DAVID (!!) to negotiate in 2019. The TALIBAN for fucks sake. The only reason Trump didn't pull out of Afghanistan as President is because he didn't make it that far.

Why are you getting all worked up over something Idiotphile posted? Every time he simps for Trump, 10 women decide to get an abortion.

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So, any major problem occurring in a distant foreign land is the fault of the current U.S. President?

It's not the sloppiness of the withdrawal in Afghanistan that led to Russian aggression, it's the plain fact that we withdrew (irrespective of its smoothness or lack thereof) that arguably tempted Putin's aggression. Putin knows the U.S. citizenry is war weary. Populists are often isolationists. Trumpism is a populist movement. Isolationism makes it easier for foreign bad actors to do bad things.

I agree we needed to stay on a small level to maintain stability, but the way the withdrawal was done was such display of incompetence and weakness, it was all Putin needed to laugh at us and think we are dumb AND weak. Don't forget Crimea happened under Obama/Biden. Weak, weak, weak.

Trump didn't pull out when he was president, even thought he could have. So, Trump's populism was tempered with hesitancy, unlike Biden who went full steam ahead without the so-called populism.

Trump going to meetings with many foreign leaders is not what one would call isolationism. Some of them were quite surprising, maybe even a little risky, so again that is not isolationism. (I don't think protectionism is the same as isolationism.)

Kamala met with so few leaders, and I don't think she will start, all of sudden, meeting with tough leaders - she even can't do a friggin' open press conference.

They followed TRUMP's withdrawal plan that TRUMP brought the friggen TALIBAN (!) to CAMP DAVID (!!) to negotiate in 2019. The TALIBAN for fucks sake. The only reason Trump didn't pull out of Afghanistan as President is because he didn't make it that far.

Why are you getting all worked up over something Idiotphile posted? Every time he simps for Trump, 10 women decide to get an abortion.

Well… there is that. But I’m not worked up… just emphasis. All caps as a highlighting device.