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Classic Rock WLAV ties its all time record low AQH share in latest Nielsens

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not only that, the young kids aren't buying the hype that this older music is cool like they did in the 80's/90's and maybe early 2000's....
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I’ve never worked in Radio on my life. I know some of my ideas are kind of discounted from those that do work in Radio – not mentioning a certain program Director, who knows me and thinks I have this vision of what Radio should be. Anyway, this is what I would do to fix LAV

Anything from the mid 60’s to mid 70’s - 1-2 spins an hour MAX

Late 70s until the grunge era of the early 90’s should be 80% of your playlist.

90’s music - 10-15% of your playlist max, stay away from the grunge and harder rock that GRD plays. Throw in the main stream rock from the era.

Expand the hell out of your 500 song playlist! ! I completely understand that you have to play the classic rock “hits“, but there is a lot of music from artists released in that era that gets very little to know AirPlay. Face it, Supertramp and later Aerosmith rates great in listener surveys but I’m sick of hearing them. A prime example of stuff that isn’t played is Sammy Hagar era Van Halen. When Eddie died, SiriusXM ran a 24/7 tribute channel and I was hearing VH music I don’t hear on broadcast radio currently.

MW and others - am I dreaming or what?
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Has it ever been revealed why Tony was let go? Has he spoken about it? It would seem the Grand Rapids Press might have delved into this considering his long history and legacy in GR radio.
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MWmetalhead wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 12:30 pm No concrete reason was ever given to my knowledge.

Tony has a well maintained FB page but never discussed it there, either. I suspect he is bound by an NDA.
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MWmetalhead wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:24 pm Tough to say.

More likely, Cumulus was just looking to cut payroll, the listeners and ratings be damned.
Sounds like Cumulus Saginaw, as each station has only 2 live personalities. Z93 and WIOG split one DJ. Rest are voice tracked
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Realist wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:52 pm
MWmetalhead wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:24 pm Tough to say.

More likely, Cumulus was just looking to cut payroll, the listeners and ratings be damned.
Sounds like Cumulus Saginaw, as each station has only 2 live personalities. Z93 and WIOG split one DJ. Rest are voice tracked
Z93 has Matt, Adam, Breck (split w/ WIOG), and Duffy... correct?
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teetoppz28 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 9:02 am
Realist wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:52 pm
MWmetalhead wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:24 pm Tough to say.

More likely, Cumulus was just looking to cut payroll, the listeners and ratings be damned.
Sounds like Cumulus Saginaw, as each station has only 2 live personalities. Z93 and WIOG split one DJ. Rest are voice tracked
Z93 has Matt, Adam, Breck (split w/ WIOG), and Duffy... correct?
Mike Duffy is voice tracked from 979X, a Wilkes-Berre, PA Cumulus rock station….
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Realist wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 6:45 pm
teetoppz28 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 9:02 am
Realist wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 5:52 pm
MWmetalhead wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:24 pm Tough to say.

More likely, Cumulus was just looking to cut payroll, the listeners and ratings be damned.
Sounds like Cumulus Saginaw, as each station has only 2 live personalities. Z93 and WIOG split one DJ. Rest are voice tracked
Z93 has Matt, Adam, Breck (split w/ WIOG), and Duffy... correct?
Mike Duffy is voice tracked from 979X, a Wilkes-Berre, PA Cumulus rock station….
Ah, I didn't realize that. Matt and Adam refer to him like he's local during the Morning After show. Thanks!
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In the March ratings WLAV dropped down to 14th place while their sister station "Hot FM" was number 12. This was a
different situation where another Cumulus station did better than WLAV. Considering that there were no top ten stations
owned by Cumulus and their WLAV dropped so low that makes me wonder how long it will be until the Cumulus people
decide to sell their G.R. stations.
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"Considering that there were no top ten stations owned by Cumulus and their WLAV dropped so low that makes me wonder how long it will be until the Cumulus people decide to sell their G.R. stations."

No offense, but thats not really how it works. "One bad ratings period, and we change formats" "We fall behind other cluster mates, we better sell the whole thing". For starters, ALL the "big 3" groups are making money. Dont kid yourself. If they wernt, thewy would have sold eons ago. Now how much they are making is a different story. They probably wish they were making more, but they aint hurting, no matter what other people on the internet or even their own employees will tell you.

And as you probably have been able to tell, a bad ratings book or 2 does not mean instant format changes. Its really hard to change formats and keep any momentum or even advertisers, especially if the changes are drastic. And as we have seen, 2nd and 3rd station formats in a market (i.e. the second or third country station) usually struggle mightily. Sometimes its better to just stay the course and hope the Neilsen diary placement improves in the next ratings period. That really is the key most of the time to ratings success. Where the diaries are distributed.
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Right now they are playing Journey's "Any Way You Want it." Honestly, what kind of advertiser wants to reach the demographic of someone happy to have heard that song 10,950 times in the last 30 years, besides Mountain Dew?
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