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City of Grand Haven evicts WGHN-FM from tower due to lease violations

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Re: City of Grand Haven evicts WGHN-FM from tower due to lease violations

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I was reading the WZZM 13 article and it says... "The city of Grand Haven entered into a tower lease agreement with the city of Grand Haven back in 1984 and says the agreement has been revised a number of times." am I just tired or is there something wrong with that headline and sentence in that article?
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Re: City of Grand Haven evicts WGHN-FM from tower due to lease violations

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Who owned the tower on Pine Tree Road in Lansing that now has three of the Townsquare FM antennas? Didn't the station best known by the legacy call letters WILS-FM get kicked off the tower when they adopted a Country format in competition with WITL-FM? Foolish move by the owners of legacy WILS-FM though.
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The violation of not providing local programming of WMPA 93.1
The format was country switched to classic rock.
12 pm-1 pm Monday thru Friday, you had the Classic Rock Cafe hosted by Jesse Bruce.
3 pm-7 pm Monday thru Friday, you had Jesse in the Basement, hosted by Jesse Bruce>
There were lots of commercials that aired that were local.
Also. local high school football and basketball games were aired.

There are quite a lot of people that are not happy with the direction that the city of Grand Haven is going.
It is losing it's small town charm, seem to want condos and high end apartments in the downtown area
and catering to lure more visitors and future residents to the area.
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Grand Haven is the most undervalued real estate along the coast at this point. It should be second homes of people from Chicago by now.
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Re: City of Grand Haven evicts WGHN-FM from tower due to lease violations

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The proposed tower is owned not by Crown Castle, but by a company called KC Properties out of Muskegon.

https://fccdata.org/?lang=en&qmenu=2&tt ... n=-86.1422

From all that I've seen, it appears WGHN-FM is a full A that can have 6kw up to 100 meters HAAT.
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Researching WGHN-FM and WZUU, it would appear that WGHN-FM was restricted as a 3 kW Class A by WZUU 92.3 Allegan. When WZUU 92.3 Allegan moved to WZUU 92.5 Mattawan, WGHN-FM became far enough spaced from WZUU to be a 6 kW nondirectional Class A. This is difficult to follow because of call letter changes.

First Adjacent Class A to Class A spacing increased from about 40 miles to about 45 miles when Class As went from 3 kW to 6 kW.
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laugh all you like, but the reality is that it's another nail in the coffin for small market local media, grand haven is literally in a tail spin with dumb ass ideas which i have seen destroy more than one incredible thing over the last year and probably added to the death of a local concert promoter. it's all fine my me. we'll gladly take the tourism just north. just shooting yourselves in the foot grand haven
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Re: City of Grand Haven evicts WGHN-FM from tower due to lease violations

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Thanks for the link Jeff! That certainly sheds a ton of light on things that neither side seemed to wanted to reveal. Neither party is acting in good faith.

I don't know enough about radio transmitting to understand how 93.1 could have gone on the air without some kind of modification to what had been on the tower when it was just 92.1 operating from there.

The whole pissing match about the 75% local sure seems like something that the city and radio station would have clearly worked out before 93.1 ever signed on.

I don't blame the city one bit for pulling the plug after WGHN stopped paying to rectify the whole electric bill fiasco.
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Re: City of Grand Haven evicts WGHN-FM from tower due to lease violations

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Tough situation for WGHN. The city technically doesn't have to wait eight years for WGHN to pay their electric bill despite the cities fault of undercharging them for eight years or possibly even longer. Very much being an armchair observer in posting that their best bet would be to come up with $100k and suck up the $4k a month for both signals. The electric bill isn't going away regardless and you won't save much moving to a new tower UNLESS they want $4k for each antenna which would be incredibly aggressive rent. No city wants a new tower going up unless maybe its in the middle of an industrial park.

Tough situation as WGHN still has a local payroll and probably less revenue now. Not a joy moving signals at the begining of winter but it can be done at a cost. Sometimes crudely done with follow up work in the warmer weather adding to said cost.
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