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The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”
This speculation alone should make for some entertaining news over the next few days.
I'm not ready to predict how this plays out politically if this indeed happens. The population is split very nearly evenly on this issue (anywhere from 50-46 favoring pro-choice to 48-48 tie depending on the poll), and my guess is that abortion will remain legal in most states. The few states that move to ban it or severely limit it is where the politics could hurt Republicans, but if that ends up being in states that are heavily Republican anyways, will that really matter?
Has a draft ever been leaked before on such a major decision? It seems a little suspect for it to happen in this specific case. If true, it's hard to predict if there will be real political fallout, with real economic struggles going on.
bmw wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:02 pm
How many people even have access to such a draft? I can't be very many at all beyond the 9 Justices.
Each justice has at least three clerks and each of those clerks have some staff.
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.
Matt wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:16 pm
The clerks do the actual writing. This is an unprecedented, apparently intentional, breach.
I'd place odds on staff of a certain two justices.
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.
bmw wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:26 pm
This speculation alone should make for some entertaining news over the next few days.
How much you wanna bet that many of the outlets will say if Roe is overturned it will be a ban on abortions, when in fact it is no such thing. It would just return the rights to the individual states. Where, it should be.
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.
bmw wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:26 pm
This speculation alone should make for some entertaining news over the next few days.
How much you wanna bet that many of the outlets will say if Roe is overturned it will be a ban on abortions, when in fact it is no such thing. It would just return the rights to the individual states. Where, it should be.
I can guarantee you that the picture that will be painted is one of an epidemic of back-alley abortions.
As an aside, marijuana is illegal at the federal level, yet many states allow its use, possession, and even sale. Since when did something being banned at the federal level matter anyways?
bmw wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:43 pm
I'm not ready to predict how this plays out politically if this indeed happens. The population is split very nearly evenly on this issue (anywhere from 50-46 favoring pro-choice to 48-48 tie depending on the poll), and my guess is that abortion will remain legal in most states. The few states that move to ban it or severely limit it is where the politics could hurt Republicans, but if that ends up being in states that are heavily Republican anyways, will that really matter?
Those numbers are from 2000.
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The right needs to stop worry about what’s between people’s legs. Instead, they should focus on what’s between their ears.
Audacity sucks.
The person who leaked this should be severely punished. It was leaked for purely political purposes, for unclear political ends unrelated to the issue at hand.
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