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950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
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Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
Not all of us are trendy, cool hipster types, who want to be wired to the internet 24/7. In any event, I have no earthly idea how I would go about connecting to the 'net in my nearly 16 year old truck, my 23 year old Cadillac, or the other vehicles we own that are even older. Among other things, I have a feeling I'd need a better data plan. 

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Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
Well, if I'm going through the trouble to get my phone out and use it to stream a news radio station, I can just look up what I want to see myself.
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Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
As we used to say in the radio biz, "No more calls...we have a winner"Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:54 am Well, if I'm going through the trouble to get my phone out and use it to stream a news radio station, I can just look up what I want to see myself.

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Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
And does anyone understand why WWJ 950 AM is still required to reduce their signal strength between sundown and sunrise? This reduction makes for difficult listening to the radio version during these hours. Their signal reduction does not seem to apply to their internet stream. And, maybe WWJ could establish an FM transmission channel?
Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
I can hear WFDF side bands on 900 and 920, but no interference to 960 near Pellston to speak of from WWJ.
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Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
Yeah. J blows here in Brighton at night. Let's at least get it on FM.
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Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
WFDF is stronger at Night in Ann Arbor and much of Livingston County due to the pattern and being several miles West, with just 25000 watts, vs. 50000 Night for WWJ.
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Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
When WWJ changed Day pattern, it widened the major lobe. The Night lobe remains quite narrow.Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 5:47 pm Yeah. J blows here in Brighton at night. Let's at least get it on FM.
WFDF pattern is narrower, but from several miles further West, even with 25000 watts Night, is much stronger.
Plug in 48114 in the link below.
http://www.v-soft.com/on-line-based-software/zipsignal
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Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
They wanted to put WFDF next to the WJR site in Riverview. Like 950, 910 protects a long vacated Canadian frequency. And under newer rules, it could have been a Minor Change. It also seems like WWJ protects a station off the West side of the Major Lobe, which is a long ways away, but still requires limited protection.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:39 pm I believe WFDF also sends peak power to an azimuth a bit west of due north, too, which helps the cause in Ann Arbor, Brighton, etc.
The downside is 910's signal is crappy in a good chunk of Macomb County after dark.
The whole WWJ APP with Nighttime Exhibits isn't on the CDBS site, but looking at the KJR 50000 watt Nighttime Exhibits, WWJ may have had to pull in somewhat toward CFAM 950 Altona, MB.
Colonel Flagg did some work with Glen Clark on this. At first they were limited to 12 kW Day due to WHAK 960 Rogers City. The Proofs for WWJ and or measured WHAK radials showed that WWJ could be 50 kW Day without elimination or reduction of WHAK. In the final analysis, no problem would have existed with WHGR 1290 to do the WOOD 1300 20 kW application either, once all the proofs and radial extensions were done. 900 in Gaylord was gone before the WFDF APP. I think Trish was willing to negotiate with CBS on WXYT vs. WMKT, but CBS reportedly didn't want to.
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Re: 950 WWJ - HD Radio FAIL! Analog signal now sounds faint.
There's another 950 other than WNTD further to the NW I believe. I'll keep looking for a newer APP for another station on 950 that is online.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:16 pm 950 protects WNTD Chicago, I suspect.
910 just ran a promo offering advertisers the ability to purchase 200 ads for $500 ($2.50 a spot).
WFDF, under Disney and Adell, should have run Sports PBP all these years like WQEW NYC did.
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