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TC Talks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:31 pm
And BMW, show me a test with 50,000 participants that indicate that covid patients have 100% immunity. That's absolute crap.
Employees of the Cleveland Clinic Health System working in Ohio on Dec 16, 2020, the day COVID-19 vaccination was started, were included. Any subject who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 at least 42 days earlier was considered previously infected...
Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.
So there you have it. Natural immunity 100% effective in 2,579 previously infected people, roughly half of whom never received the vaccine.
I'm doing OK. I may or may not have this alleged "Natural Immunity" but I'm covering my butt. I got vaccinated too. I hope that didn't degrade my natural immunity.
So like, if natural immunity has been shown to reduce in just about the same period of time or even quicker... I dunno... Maybe a vaccine and booster shots are the better option?
TC Talks wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:31 pm
Keep grasping up the little straws out there to help support your premise but you are flat-out misleading anybody you can get to believe your garbage.
He was right on with his 2,000 deaths prediction. How can he be wrong about ANYTHING?
Well, never underestimate the value of a Community College Computer degree.
283,000,000 Americans didn't vote for Trump.
"When the going gets weird, the weird go Pro."
-Hunter S. Thompson
Regardless, I got a third shot last week. I travel quite a bit, and everything I have read about the next variant make me not want to be a guinea pig until data can be collected on long term effectiveness. I am not eligible for the specific booster yet.
283,000,000 Americans didn't vote for Trump.
"When the going gets weird, the weird go Pro."
-Hunter S. Thompson
Regardless, I got a third shot last week. I travel quite a bit, and everything I have read about the next variant make me not want to be a guinea pig until data can be collected on long term effectiveness. I am not eligible for the specific booster yet.
You are a pile of horseshit. Is anything you post truthful?
TC Talks wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:09 pm
I just got the J&J vaccine Thursday. This, plus my Pfizer in February has been shown to dramatically improve protection against Delta.
I have 22 days of music festivals to attend through October.
Regardless, I got a third shot last week. I travel quite a bit, and everything I have read about the next variant make me not want to be a guinea pig until data can be collected on long term effectiveness. I am not eligible for the specific booster yet.
You are a pile of horseshit. Is anything you post truthful?
TC Talks wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:09 pm
I just got the J&J vaccine Thursday. This, plus my Pfizer in February has been shown to dramatically improve protection against Delta.
I have 22 days of music festivals to attend through October.
I think he read somewhere if you get FOUR shots of the vaccine, then you start radiating antibodies. That will spew over onto those folks that didn't get their own jab and provide them with some cover too!!
TC Talks wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:54 pm
Well, never underestimate the value of a Community College Computer degree.
Is that the best response you can come up with? You told me I was full of crap, I posted a legit study that literally met the exact criteria that you said were utter crap, and you have no response to being proven wrong. Got it.
There is a problem that really needs to be considered here with the position that "natural immunity" is on par with immunity via vaccination.
To become naturally immune by fighting off the virus, you must first catch the virus! Vaccination skips the part where you get the disease that can send you to the hospital, do irreversible damage to your lungs, and could also kill you. You don't want to depend on natural immunity because if you are naturally immune you received the virus the vaccine works to prevent and you were lucky enough (hopefully) to not experience permanent damage.
But say someone did get the virus. What then? Well of course it all depends on the individual, but you you read through the fecundity of research that is currently being completed (and there really is a lot of it out there, I really don't feel like copypasting a ton of articles, but if you search a scholarly database for studies on natural immunity to covid, you will find them no problem), the common range for natural immunity is about 3-8 months. This is pretty much consistent with the range for the vaccine.
So now what?
Well, I don't think that it would be wise for someone to purposely try to contract the virus again once their "natural immunity" wanes, so their best course of action would be to... Get vaccinated!
I really don't get why this has to be broken down for certain people with smooth brains that populate this forum, it seems pretty straightforward.
