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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by TC Talks » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:38 pm

bmw wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:39 pm
Which number is bigger?

Elizabeth Warren's percent of Native American heritage, or the wall's percent of the federal budget?
You are throwing every piece of junk logic you possibly can come up with on this one.


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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by screen glare » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:17 am

You’re on your last leg, bmw. Your man is a sick, paper tiger. Wise up soon or go down with him. Realizing, of course, that he doesn’t give a damn about you.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Radio Sucks » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:22 am

Someone who is seriously wanting a wall wrote:Which number is bigger?

Elizabeth Warren's percent of Native American heritage, or the wall's percent of the federal budget?
And just out of curiosity, how does that sell your wall to those who disagree?

Mr. Trump should study the last president who accomplished a lot with a divided government. He was sitting right next to him at GHW Bush's funeral.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by bmw » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:22 am

Democrat opposition to the wall has NOTHING to do with the cost, and you're being disingenuous if you say it does. Democrats NEVER, EVER oppose ANY form of government spending, no matter how useless, if it advances a leftist cause.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by screen glare » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:02 am

As I said. Last leg.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Mega Hertz » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:23 am

"Yeah, we're gonna build that wall, and then it'll take Congress seven years to figure out which color to fuckin' paint it"

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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Bryce » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:40 am

bmw wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:22 am
Democrat opposition to the wall has NOTHING to do with the cost, and you're being disingenuous if you say it does. Democrats NEVER, EVER oppose ANY form of government spending, no matter how useless, if it advances a leftist cause.
Their absolute loathing of the POTUS aside, I think their biggest reason for not funding a wall, along with other border security measures, is primarily because it's in their best interest to have as many undocumented Democrats coming into this country as possible.

If 80 percent of the offspring of illegal immigrants were shown to be future Republican voters, you can rest assured there would be a wall 40 foot tall, 30 feet thick with mine fields on both sides funded immediately.

Remember too, once a wall is built, it's there and does it's job automatically. Electronic measures and physical enforcement can change depending on the directives given by those in charge.


There sure isn't as much excitement, fawning, or adulation over our first orange president as there was over our first black one. Evidently, orange really isn't the new black.

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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Mega Hertz » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:43 am

The party of fiscal responsibility strikes again.

Since we're using strawman arguments, let me get one in really quick.

Okay, 5.7 billion for a useless wall. Great. Really wanna protect Americans? Make it so they can afford to go to the hospital and be treated. I'm more afraid of getting jammed up with hospital bills than Raul selling oranges by the freeway.

Also, Republicans area against "wasteful spending", like they accuse the boogeyman "left" of doing. Wouldn't something like this be described as wasteful? Well, if something like health insurance is wasteful, I can't see how a supposed wall is any better.

Here's a more fun one...okay, you wanna spend 5.7 billion on a wall? Okay, great. Bully for you!

But, we need a fence in the backyard because a cat was in our yard. Not like they can't over the fence or under it, but...okay, we NEED a fence.

I seem to remember some of our right wing friends doing something like this a few years ago.

Our monthly household income is, say...$4,000.

Okay, house payment is $1,000.

All utilities are, about...$400.

Phone bills are roughly $100 each.

Oh! Car notes and insurance...$500 between both of our vehicles.

Damn...we gotta eat, and feed the two kids...$200 a week or so at the store.

Oh, forgot daycare...$3-400 a week.

Now, the kids need new clothes. The car is acting up. May need a new roof. We need gas in the car.

No vacations, no fast food, no new TV's or stereo's.

The fence (because a cat got in the yard and killed a mouse) costs $1,000.

Now, if ALL the other needed items are taken care of...okay, let's look into a fence.

But if the kids are hungry, the house is cold, and there's a hole in the roof...perhaps we should be taking care of things that are a little more important, like...insurance, starvation, homelessness, poverty and jobs/wages...THEN we can worry about a fucking WALL.


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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Bryce » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:52 am

Mega Hertz wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:43 am

Okay, 5.7 billion for a useless wall.
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Mega Hertz wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:43 am
But if the kids are hungry, the house is cold, and there's a hole in the roof...perhaps we should be taking care of things that are a little more important, like...insurance, starvation, homelessness, poverty and jobs/wages...THEN we can worry about a fucking WALL.
Maybe, just maybe, fewer undocumented Democrats using resources will lead to improvements for US citizens with the things you list?

Currently the education costs for the children of illegal immigrants is roughly 45 billion a year. That's just the cost of schooling.


There sure isn't as much excitement, fawning, or adulation over our first orange president as there was over our first black one. Evidently, orange really isn't the new black.

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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Mega Hertz » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:01 pm

Bryce wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:52 am
Mega Hertz wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:43 am

Okay, 5.7 billion for a useless wall.
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Mega Hertz wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:43 am
But if the kids are hungry, the house is cold, and there's a hole in the roof...perhaps we should be taking care of things that are a little more important, like...insurance, starvation, homelessness, poverty and jobs/wages...THEN we can worry about a fucking WALL.
Maybe, just maybe, fewer undocumented Democrats using resources will lead to improvements for US citizens with the things you list?

Currently the education costs for the children of illegal immigrants is roughly 45 billion a year. That's just the cost of schooling.
Pretty sure nobody feels like getting shot at, either.


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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by bmw » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:05 pm

Mega Hertz wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:01 pm
Pretty sure nobody feels like getting shot at, either.
This has to be one of the most idiotic statements I've read on here in some time. Are you suggesting that the mere threat of being shot at would keep prisoners in their place if there were otherwise no jail cells or walls?



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Mega Hertz » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:06 pm

Democrats this, Democrats that.

We're you behind the Democrats when they supposedly wanted to spend 5.7 billion on a wall like all those videos on those right wing sites? Because I remember a lot of huffing and puffing over Obama's budget. So, if he and the Democrats wanted in then, why didn't it get passed? Sounds to me like plenty of Republican support now...


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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Mega Hertz » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:06 pm

bmw wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:05 pm
Mega Hertz wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:01 pm
Pretty sure nobody feels like getting shot at, either.
This has to be one of the most idiotic statements I've read on here in some time. Are you suggesting that the mere threat of being shot at would keep prisoners in their place if there were otherwise no jail cells or walls?
Typical leftist, resorts to calling names...

I'll just let TC Talks keep taking out the trash. Go back to worrying about the win and only the win.
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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by bmw » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:07 pm

Bryce wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:40 am

Their absolute loathing of the POTUS aside, I think their biggest reason for not funding a wall, along with other border security measures, is primarily because it's in their best interest to have as many undocumented Democrats coming into this country as possible...
You can't really set aside their absolute loathing though, as I believe it is the primary driving force behind everything the left does today. Remember when Trump last year offered up amnesty for 1.8 million illegals? Where did that go with democrats?



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by bmw » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:08 pm

Mega Hertz wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:06 pm
Typical leftist, resorts to calling names...
I didn't engage in name-calling. I said your STATEMENT was IDIOTIC. Look up the definition of idiotic.



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