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Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:37 am
by Colonel Flagg
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:11 am
Can someone tell AccuWeather's Matt Benz that there is no city around here called "Oakland" ?
Thank you.
I've heard this as well. I can only guess he's referring to Oakland Township, north of Rochester. He also says "Clinton" frequently.
This morning, Greg Bowman is adding "Road" to every street he mentions. Dickerson ROAD, and Caniff ROAD. Both are avenues. I'm willing to bet ignorant writers are to blame for that. Saying the name of the street by itself is sufficient. Nobody needs to hear the suffix.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:16 pm
by Newsman123
Some insight:
Yes, the writing is often an issue, and the anchors have to copy edit in real time.
Also, its unrealistic to expect the anchors to know the street names in every town and city.
Finally, Accuweather is based in Pennsylvania, so the mets arent in Michigan nor do they live here.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:02 pm
by Deleted User 15924
Me personally I think some are being a bit nit picky.
If I heard someone say "Out in Washtenaw" or "Over in Lenawee" without adding County, I'm not going to wonder if there is a city or village by those names. Same with a road. Who gives a toot if they call it a street, an avenue, a parkway or a boulevard. How much of a hissy fit would some of you throw if they just said The Southfield or The Davison without adding Freeway?
It's like people that indignantly correct you when you call it Cobo. They know where you mean.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:21 pm
by edj
There is a Clinton near Adrian. Specifying Township in that case is the way to go, same with Oakland and Macomb Townships.
The word Road is only necessary if it is also the name of a city. Rochester, Trenton and Southfield come to mind (I know Southfield is a slightly different case with a freeway as part of it). O'Neil Stevens will add Road, Avenue, etc to everything. He also adds the state or US route to everything. Who calls The Davison M-8 or Ford Road M-153?
Part of it is the anchors fault for not catching such poor writing. I believe some of it is the anchor also writng poorly. Erin Vermeulen is the worst offender of this.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:41 pm
by ZenithCKLW
My inlaws live in Wayne, MI, and I frequently visit. The number of times I’m driving over and hear about a traffic issue “over in Wayne” when they really mean Wayne County is stupid. Reports of a traffic issue on Michigan Ave “over in Wayne” when it could really be over in Dearborn or Detroit is especially confusing.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:37 pm
by Newsman123
edj wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:21 pm
There is a Clinton near Adrian. Specifying Township in that case is the way to go, same with Oakland and Macomb Townships.
The word Road is only necessary if it is also the name of a city. Rochester, Trenton and Southfield come to mind (I know Southfield is a slightly different case with a freeway as part of it). O'Neil Stevens will add Road, Avenue, etc to everything. He also adds the state or US route to everything. Who calls The Davison M-8 or Ford Road M-153?
Part of it is the anchors fault for not catching such poor writing. I believe some of it is the anchor also writng poorly. Erin Vermeulen is the worst offender of this.
The anchors often cant catch it. The way newsradio works is new material is being added in real time. The anchors arent able to edit copy like a traditional newscast. Think a hamster on a wheel.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:29 pm
by Rate This
Newsman123 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:37 pm
edj wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:21 pm
There is a Clinton near Adrian. Specifying Township in that case is the way to go, same with Oakland and Macomb Townships.
The word Road is only necessary if it is also the name of a city. Rochester, Trenton and Southfield come to mind (I know Southfield is a slightly different case with a freeway as part of it). O'Neil Stevens will add Road, Avenue, etc to everything. He also adds the state or US route to everything. Who calls The Davison M-8 or Ford Road M-153?
Part of it is the anchors fault for not catching such poor writing. I believe some of it is the anchor also writng poorly. Erin Vermeulen is the worst offender of this.
The anchors often cant catch it. The way newsradio works is new material is being added in real time. The anchors arent able to edit copy like a traditional newscast. Think a hamster on a wheel.
There is the possibility that you can read a line ahead of what you are speaking and fix it on the fly.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:54 am
by Trophyhead
Some of the best advice I received early in my career came from a broadcast vet, Rick D'Amico, who went from radio in the Midwest (Battle Creek, Lansing included) to a long television career in Phoenix. He took a hunk of wire and offered some pointers on the "cold read."
This included the notion of looking ahead in copy, to see if there were words astray or any point where emphasis on the phrase being offered would be important.
Turn on the box these days and it might be like having real time success seeking a particular product in a grocery store, "just be happy with what you get."
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:03 am
by paul8539
EDJ:
I still refer to the Davison as M8 and the Lodge as M10. And the Ford Freeway as I94. And I use mile marker numbers, not overpass names.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:07 am
by edj
Almost everyone calls the Ford Freeway I-94. The Lodge is about half and half. It’s the Davison that is very rarely called by its number.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:08 am
by craig11152
edj wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:21 pm
There is a Clinton near Adrian.
Interesting. I've never thought of Clinton in relation to Adrian but I suppose it makes sense.
Since I've lived in either Ypsilanti or Ann Arbor for most of my life to me its always been that cute little town 12 miles SE of Saline.
Re: WWJ 950
Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:56 am
by Colonel Flagg
edj wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:07 am
Almost everyone calls the Ford Freeway I-94. The Lodge is about half and half. It’s the Davison that is very rarely called by its number.
The Davison Freeway didn't have the M-8 designation until about 25 years ago, when it was widened and rebuilt.
"The Reuther" was used more in the past, but I seem to hear that less and less as time goes on. It may be because the green highway signs actually said "W.P. Reuther Freeway" in the beginning.