Re: Oxford High School shooting
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:47 pm
His parents are to blame!!!
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Re: Oxford High School shooting
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:21 pm
Jesus Christ. This whole situation stinks to high heaven. I can't believe the shit I'm reading. Just when you think shit can't go any lower, it does. Un-fucking-belivable.
Re: Oxford High School shooting
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:40 pm
Couldn’t agree more. When was the last time you heard about a school shooting at a faith-based school?
Re: Oxford High School shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:44 am
Now the parents are on the run, vehicle located in Detroit and a search is underway.
Re: Oxford High School shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:36 am
Re: Oxford High School shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:53 am
As you mention, it sounds like he didn't check for the gun until AFTER he heard about the shooting. Both parents were called into the school to discuss the "concerning" picture earlier in the day, which depicted a similar gun being used. They KNEW they had bought HIM a gun and should have checked THEN to see if he had it. At the very least, they should have checked IMMEDIATELY upon arriving back at home.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:50 am The involuntary manslaughter charges against the parents may be difficult to prove at trial. Legal experts say such charges in situations such as this one are quite rare.
Prosecution will need to show that there were clear warning signs as to the child's state of mind, prior to the day of the shooting, that the parents willfully ignored when allowing him access to the firearm.
Alternatively, prosecution will need to show that the parents already knew the gun was missing when the meeting with school officials occurred.
It does appear the father searched the home immediately after learning of the shooting from local media, discovered the gun was missing, and called police.
It is legal in Michigan for minors to possess and use firearms for legal purposes under the supervision of an adult. Additionally, there is no statute requiring firearms in the home to be stored under lock & key, or to have a trigger guard, or to be stored in a safe. Frankly, I would not be in support of such a law, since one reason for having guns in the home is for personal protection. If someone breaks into the home, having a gun in a safe or lockbox in a different room doesn't do much good.
It would not surprise me if a plea bargain is offered to the parents.
Re: Oxford High School shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:55 am
I really don't think it was the building owner. I suspect it was an automated license plate reader that found the car, and then they probably called the building owner to get access to the building. Who is wandering around their building in Detroit around midnight?MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:03 am https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 865574002/
Kudos to the building owner who called the cops upon spotting the Crumbleys!
Re: Oxford High School shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:35 am
I think a solution is a law requiring a gun owner to be directly responsible for his gun and anything bad that happens with that gun in the hands of a minor. In other words it doesn't have to be locked up, unloaded or otherwise lacking quick access. It just has to be under direct control, on ones person.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:50 am Additionally, there is no statute requiring firearms in the home to be stored under lock & key, or to have a trigger guard, or to be stored in a safe. Frankly, I would not be in support of such a law, since one reason for having guns in the home is for personal protection. If someone breaks into the home, having a gun in a safe or lockbox in a different room doesn't do much good.
I keep my gun in a locked box by my bed. It has fingerprint access and I practice that access in the dark several times a month. Should I feel the need to have that gun handy when not in bed the solution is some sort of holster so its on my person.
A sidebar: I shoot pistols left handed and when I acquired my gun from my daughter 2 holsters were right handed only.
Re: Oxford High School shooting
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:36 am
I watched Channel 7 at 6 a.m. this morning. The tone and content of the reporting was very professional. Then they went to commercials. The first thing was a melodramatic montage of Channel 7's reporting of the story that was very lurid and tasteless. I turned the channel.