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Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:39 pm Side note:

This isn't a bitch at WLLZ, maybe more for WCSX (or the format in general), but after going through my albums tonight, it seemed to me that I haven't heard much in the way of progressive rock around much the last few years. Emerson, Lake and Palmer used to be a mainstay on CSX, stuff like Yes. Rush is pretty limited to Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures. It could be the evolution (if you can call it that) so all of that tested out, even most of 80s Genesis is gone.

It's okay, though. Bands like Great White, Warrant, Winger and solo David Lee Roth need more spins.

sfpcc wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:11 am

Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:39 pm Side note:

This isn't a bitch at WLLZ, maybe more for WCSX (or the format in general), but after going through my albums tonight, it seemed to me that I haven't heard much in the way of progressive rock around much the last few years. Emerson, Lake and Palmer used to be a mainstay on CSX, stuff like Yes. Rush is pretty limited to Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures. It could be the evolution (if you can call it that) so all of that tested out, even most of 80s Genesis is gone.

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Jethro Tull also seems to be completely gone.

Lucky615 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:42 pm

sfpcc wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:11 am

Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:39 pm Side note:

This isn't a bitch at WLLZ, maybe more for WCSX (or the format in general), but after going through my albums tonight, it seemed to me that I haven't heard much in the way of progressive rock around much the last few years. Emerson, Lake and Palmer used to be a mainstay on CSX, stuff like Yes. Rush is pretty limited to Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures. It could be the evolution (if you can call it that) so all of that tested out, even most of 80s Genesis is gone.

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Jethro Tull also seems to be completely gone.

As the decades move along so does the formats. Classic Rock today is not the same Classic Rock from what was played on WCSX when it debuted in 1987 when it was introduced in Detroit. Which was 33 years ago. 60’s and 70’s Classic Rock is what you heard, now it’s 80’s,90’s and 00’s. The same is for what was Oldies stations which have become Classic Hits, Oldies where 60’s and 70’s and Classic Hits (which are now the new Oldies)70’s 80’s and 90’s.

JLesinski wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:37 pm

Lucky615 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:42 pm

sfpcc wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:11 am

Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:39 pm Side note:

This isn't a bitch at WLLZ, maybe more for WCSX (or the format in general), but after going through my albums tonight, it seemed to me that I haven't heard much in the way of progressive rock around much the last few years. Emerson, Lake and Palmer used to be a mainstay on CSX, stuff like Yes. Rush is pretty limited to Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures. It could be the evolution (if you can call it that) so all of that tested out, even most of 80s Genesis is gone.

I

Jethro Tull also seems to be completely gone.

As the decades move along so does the formats. Classic Rock today is not the same Classic Rock from what was played on WCSX when it debuted in 1987 when it was introduced in Detroit. Which was 33 years ago. 60’s and 70’s Classic Rock is what you heard, now it’s 80’s,90’s and 00’s. The same is for what was Oldies stations which have become Classic Hits, Oldies where 60’s and 70’s and Classic Hits (which are now the new Oldies)70’s 80’s and 90’s.

I dont think anyone denies that formats evolve. Personally, what aggravates me is not that WLLZ plays that older stuff-its that they try to say that they are a "NEW generation of classic rock." Fine, then assemble your playlist accordingly. Dont say that and then load your playlist with Bohemian Rhapsody and other overplayed geriatric hits.

Bryce wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:01 pm

Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:39 pm Side note:

This isn't a bitch at WLLZ, maybe more for WCSX (or the format in general), but after going through my albums tonight, it seemed to me that I haven't heard much in the way of progressive rock around much the last few years. Emerson, Lake and Palmer used to be a mainstay on CSX, stuff like Yes. Rush is pretty limited to Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures. It could be the evolution (if you can call it that) so all of that tested out, even most of 80s Genesis is gone.

It's okay, though. Bands like Great White, Warrant, Winger and solo David Lee Roth need more spins.

I agree. Although, Roundabout was overplayed to death, it's been a long time since I've heard it. I wouldn't mind hearing it again. Lucky Man and Hoedown would be a welcome reprieve from the constant butt rock.

Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:13 pm
Bryce, I have to admit that I'm shocked. I didn't realize you liked ANYTHING progressive

Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:19 pm I heard Heartbreaker by Pat Benatar today. Not a bad song, but not right for the format. Leave that to CSX. Replace that with Stinkfist by Tool.

Bryce wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:33 pm

Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:13 pm
Bryce, I have to admit that I'm shocked. I didn't realize you liked ANYTHING progressive

Hey every so often I get tired of Bing Crosby and Eddie Albert and take a walk on the wild side. Ooops, hope I don't get sued by Lou Reed's estate. Speaking of Lou Reed, believe it or not, I really like the Reed/Metallica collaboration.

Colonel Flagg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:58 pm

Mega Hertz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:19 pm I heard Heartbreaker by Pat Benatar today. Not a bad song, but not right for the format. Leave that to CSX. Replace that with Stinkfist by Tool.

If WLLZ's target was WRIF, that strategy would make sense, but the target is WCSX. When the original WLLZ appeared on scene, 1980-81, they had H*** female numbers. I suspect that's why you're hearing so much Journey, Benatar, and even Bryan Adams on WLLZ. What they are missing is that the high female numbers had a lot to do with the whole package, not just a few female friendly tunes sprinkled in here and there.

The Prog songs disappeared 10 to 15 years ago. It would be interesting to see the research on that. Even in Orlando, we played Tull, ELP, and Yes. At WIOT, Jethro Tull had a new album out in '87 and it was H***. At some point, AOR, and Classic Rock began aiming for the lowest common denominator.

Back in Lansing, the original MMQ often played Donovan "Mellow Yellow" and 60s tunes by The Kinks, The Animals, and even The Byrds. That stuff was shelved long ago, mercifully.

Lucky615 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:42 pmAs the decades move along so does the formats. Classic Rock today is not the same Classic Rock from what was played on WCSX when it debuted in 1987 when it was introduced in Detroit.