Trump Shooting: The Sequel

[audiophile]

Nuts and their guns...

Ryan Wesley Routh, the 58-year-old man who was arrested on Sunday in connection with what the F.B.I. described as an attempted assassination on former President Donald J. Trump, had expressed the desire to fight and die in Ukraine.

Mr. Routh’s posts on the social media site X revealed a penchant for violent rhetoric in the weeks after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022. “I AM WILLING TO FLY TO KRAKOW AND GO TO THE BORDER OF UKRAINE TO VOLUNTEER AND FIGHT AND DIE,” he wrote.

On the messaging application Signal, Mr. Routh wrote that “Civilians must change this war and prevent future wars” as part of his profile bio. On WhatsApp, his bio read, “Each one of us must do our part daily in the smallest steps help support human rights, freedom and democracy; we each must help the chinese.”

Mr. Routh, a former roofing contractor from Greensboro, N.C., was interviewed by The New York Times in 2023 for an article about Americans volunteering to aid the war effort in Ukraine. Mr. Routh, who had no military experience, said he had traveled to the country after Russia’s invasion and wanted to recruit Afghan soldiers to fight there.

In a telephone interview with The New York Times in 2023, when Mr. Routh was in Washington, he spoke with a self-assuredness of a seasoned diplomat who thought his plans to support Ukraine’s war effort were sure to succeed. But he appeared to have little patience for anyone who got in his way. When an American foreign fighter seemed to talk down to him in a Facebook message he shared with The New York Times, Mr. Routh said, “he needs to be shot.”

In the interview, Mr. Routh said he was in Washington to meet with the U.S. Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, known as the Helsinki Commission “for two hours” to help push for more support for Ukraine. The commission is led by members of Congress and staffed by congressional aides. It is influential on matters of democracy and security and has been vocal in supporting Ukraine.

Mr. Routh also said he was seeking recruits for Ukraine from among Afghan soldiers who had fled the Taliban. He said he planned to move them, in some cases illegally, from Pakistan and Iran to Ukraine. He said dozens had expressed interest.

This sounds like something Putin cooked up.

I don't think so. Why would Putin bring in trained fighters to fight his own men?

Beside his social media account also included post about this:
Pro Ukraine.
Hates Trump.
Hates Israel. Against Observant Pro Israel Jews.
For Hamas, etc.
Pro uncontrolled open borders immigration.

Sounds like a neo-lib to me.

[zzand]

I find it interesting that you had to apply a political label to the suspect. It is obvious from all posted here that he is a very troubled person and is filled with hate and a need for violence. Applying political labels serves no useful purpose. Let's all be thankful no one was injured. That's what actually counts here.

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I find it interesting that you had to apply a political label to the suspect. It is obvious from all posted here that he is a very troubled person and is filled with hate and a need for violence. Applying political labels serves no useful purpose. Let's all be thankful no one was injured. That's what actually counts here.

This. Labeling this person suggests the rest of the people on any side would just as easily be in the bushes pointing the barrel of a gun out in the direction of Trump or any other leader.

[Matt]

I find it interesting that you had to apply a political label to the suspect. It is obvious from all posted here that he is a very troubled person and is filled with hate and a need for violence. Applying political labels serves no useful purpose. Let's all be thankful no one was injured. That's what actually counts here.

[craig11152]

Everyone can go play laser tag with live rounds in a AK-47 for all I care especially anyone in a position of political importance right, left or sideways.

Go to hell. You are a sick fuck. Jesus you've got some serious fucking problems. I'd tell you to get help but I truly believe you're way beyond redemption. You're damaged goods. Unfucking believable.

[Honeyman]

Everyone can go play laser tag with live rounds in a AK-47 for all I care especially anyone in a position of political importance right, left or sideways.

Go to hell. You are a sick fuck. Jesus you've got some serious fucking problems. I'd tell you to get help but I truly believe you're way beyond redemption. You're damaged goods. Unfucking believable.

While I agree that Lester's comment was out-of-line, it's interesting how you eliminated the words he said immediately before. For being such a stickler of keeping things in context, you obviously didn't do so here.

I quit giving a shit about this kind of thing after the nation turned its back on taking meaningful action after 20 little kids were mowed down in Sandy Hook. Everyone can go play laser tag with live rounds in a AK-47 for all I care especially anyone in a position of political importance right, left or sideways.

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Everyone can go play laser tag with live rounds in a AK-47 for all I care especially anyone in a position of political importance right, left or sideways.

Go to hell. You are a sick fuck. Jesus you've got some serious fucking problems. I'd tell you to get help but I truly believe you're way beyond redemption. You're damaged goods. Unfucking believable.

While I agree that Lester's comment was out-of-line, it's interesting how you eliminated the words he said immediately before. For being such a stickler of keeping things in context, you obviously didn't do so here.

I quit giving a shit about this kind of thing after the nation turned its back on taking meaningful action after 20 little kids were mowed down in Sandy Hook. Everyone can go play laser tag with live rounds in a AK-47 for all I care especially anyone in a position of political importance right, left or sideways.

Craigs signature is clearly meant ironically or something. That said even if the content of the post was maybe clearly an explosion of anger… Les is probably not the only one in the country who feels that way. Probably not even close.

[Honeyman]

Agree. Sandy Hook stands alone in its gut-wrenching sadness and pure depravity. 20 young children killed days before Christmas....and nothing changed.

[Turkeytop]

It now seems that violence and threats of violence have become a part of eveyday politics in the US.

[Lester The Nightfly]

Everyone can go play laser tag with live rounds in a AK-47 for all I care especially anyone in a position of political importance right, left or sideways.

Go to hell. You are a sick fuck. Jesus you've got some serious fucking problems. I'd tell you to get help but I truly believe you're way beyond redemption. You're damaged goods. Unfucking believable.

While I agree that Lester's comment was out-of-line, it's interesting how you eliminated the words he said immediately before. For being such a stickler of keeping things in context, you obviously didn't do so here.

I quit giving a shit about this kind of thing after the nation turned its back on taking meaningful action after 20 little kids were mowed down in Sandy Hook. Everyone can go play laser tag with live rounds in a AK-47 for all I care especially anyone in a position of political importance right, left or sideways.

It's also interesting that Craig didn't care to notice it was a response to our resident psychopath calling out my original comment about Sandy Hook as BS. No worries, at least it's crystal clear whose sympathies lie with whom.

[craig11152]

Somebody explain the logic to me that Lester no longer cares if people kill one another with AR 15's or AK 47's because of societies failures after Sandy Hook?

[craig11152]

It's also interesting that Craig didn't care to notice it was a response to our resident psychopath calling out my original comment about Sandy Hook as BS. No worries, at least it's crystal clear whose sympathies lie with whom.

1. I don't consider BMW remotely a "psychopath". While I probably disagree with his stance du jour way more than 50% of the time he does present his opinions and argues his points in a generally civil manner. Not many people do in here.

2. Your comment wasn't about Sandy Hook. It was about your alleged opinion on political assassination post Sandy Hook.

[bmw]

It's also interesting that Craig didn't care to notice it was a response to our resident psychopath calling out my original comment about Sandy Hook as BS. No worries, at least it's crystal clear whose sympathies lie with whom.

Maybe you should learn some reading comprehension skills before you fly off the handle and go into hyper-gaslighting mode. The "BS" I was referring to had nothing to do with Sandy Hook; what I was suggesting was BS was your "especially anyone in a position of political importance right, left or sideways." You seemed to imply that you equally wouldn't care if it were Democrats instead of Trump who were the subject of multiple assassination attempts. My calling of BS was suggesting that if it were Biden or Harris who were the subject of these attempts as opposed to Trump, you would not have posted that you don't care anymore about this kind of political violence.

[bmw]

Somebody explain the logic to me that Lester no longer cares if people kill one another with AR 15's or AK 47's because of societies failures after Sandy Hook?

His comment came across to me as suggesting that because the people in power didn't do what he wanted done after Sandy Hook, that as far as he is concerned they can all go play in traffic. In other words, he's ok with an eye-for-an-eye.

However, given the totality of his posts in here and his hyper-partisan left-wing philosophy, I think he's only talking about Republican politicians. Which is why I called BS. I don't believe for one second that if there were multiple assassination attempts on Harris or Biden that he would come in here say "eh, I don't really care. They got what they had coming to them." I just don't buy it.

[bmw]

As to the foiled assassination attempt itself, can you even begin to imagine what kind of scrutiny the Secret Service would be under right now if they hadn't spotted this guy and he would have so much as even gotten shots off when Trump was on the same golf hole?

I know that a golf course is a very large area to try to keep bad guys off of, but it is my understanding that Trump golfs there regularly. I find it unacceptable that this guy was even able to get as close as he was.