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Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:34 am
by sinklair
Circle 7 needs to clean house on its anchor team. The problem isn’t the news Director. The GM who stands in the way of these changes is also at fault. There is no direction, no vision.
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:55 am
by 696lover
If 7 gets the in studio girls in anything tighter, the dresses will explode like a sausage casing on the grill.
Doesn't seem to have helped ratings, though
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:40 am
by Deleted User 14896
696lover wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:55 am
If 7 gets the in studio girls in anything tighter, the dresses will explode like a sausage casing on the grill.
Doesn't seem to have helped ratings, though
So do you think their ratings would improve if EVERYONE in front of the camera was a young bosom busting bubble butt that the guys going to work want to catch before they head out the door? Make sure you don't cover the boobs with the banner.
And McDreamy guys that all the young moms want to tune in for? I say this last paragraph because I do know 3 or 4 women who watch ABC evening news just because that anchor is "easy on the eyes."
Or go in the other direction. Go get some elder statesmen and women from other markets. Folks that have been in front of the camera since it had vacuum tubes. Give 'em more money than they are making in El Paso or Fargo. Would this sort of move make The Depends Crowd tune in to anchors they can relate to?
In my personal opinion, there's nothing a news director can do about low ratings until Broadcast House starts showing more news and less commercials. Watch 7 for an hour straight. They will do the news for a minute, do three minutes of commercials, come back for less than a minute, and go right back into 3 minutes of commercials. Who is going to sit through all that without reaching for the remote?
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:36 am
by Rate This
Mike Oxlong wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:40 am
696lover wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:55 am
If 7 gets the in studio girls in anything tighter, the dresses will explode like a sausage casing on the grill.
Doesn't seem to have helped ratings, though
So do you think their ratings would improve if EVERYONE in front of the camera was a young bosom busting bubble butt that the guys going to work want to catch before they head out the door? Make sure you don't cover the boobs with the banner.
And McDreamy guys that all the young moms want to tune in for? I say this last paragraph because I do know 3 or 4 women who watch ABC evening news just because that anchor is "easy on the eyes."
Or go in the other direction. Go get some elder statesmen and women from other markets. Folks that have been in front of the camera since it had vacuum tubes. Give 'em more money than they are making in El Paso or Fargo. Would this sort of move make The Depends Crowd tune in to anchors they can relate to?
In my personal opinion, there's nothing a news director can do about low ratings until Broadcast House starts showing more news and less commercials. Watch 7 for an hour straight. They will do the news for a minute, do three minutes of commercials, come back for less than a minute, and go right back into 3 minutes of commercials. Who is going to sit through all that without reaching for the remote?
When do they do that exactly?
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:42 pm
by km1125
Mike Oxlong wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:40 am
696lover wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:55 am
If 7 gets the in studio girls in anything tighter, the dresses will explode like a sausage casing on the grill.
Doesn't seem to have helped ratings, though
So do you think their ratings would improve if EVERYONE in front of the camera was a young bosom busting bubble butt that the guys going to work want to catch before they head out the door? Make sure you don't cover the boobs with the banner.
And McDreamy guys that all the young moms want to tune in for? I say this last paragraph because I do know 3 or 4 women who watch ABC evening news just because that anchor is "easy on the eyes."
Or go in the other direction. Go get some elder statesmen and women from other markets. Folks that have been in front of the camera since it had vacuum tubes. Give 'em more money than they are making in El Paso or Fargo. Would this sort of move make The Depends Crowd tune in to anchors they can relate to?
In my personal opinion, there's nothing a news director can do about low ratings until Broadcast House starts showing more news and less commercials. Watch 7 for an hour straight. They will do the news for a minute, do three minutes of commercials, come back for less than a minute, and go right back into 3 minutes of commercials. Who is going to sit through all that without reaching for the remote?
Looks only get you so far, but there's no question they **certainly** bring folks in the front door and give you a CHANCE to show you're worthy of keeping the viewers attention for the remainder of the show. NONE of the shows we have on right now have that ability. There might be one or two with 'eye candy' appeal, but the rest of the team makes you want to change the channel at the earliest opportunity.
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:42 pm
by Deleted User 14896
Rate This wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:36 am
Mike Oxlong wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:40 am
In my personal opinion, there's nothing a news director can do about low ratings until Broadcast House starts showing more news and less commercials. Watch 7 for an hour straight. They will do the news for a minute, do three minutes of commercials, come back for less than a minute, and go right back into 3 minutes of commercials. Who is going to sit through all that without reaching for the remote?
When do they do that exactly?
If you're talking about what I left quoted, you must not watch that station before GMA comes on. All kidding aside. Like I said, sit and watch for an hour before 7am.
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:51 pm
by Rate This
Mike Oxlong wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:42 pm
Rate This wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:36 am
Mike Oxlong wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:40 am
In my personal opinion, there's nothing a news director can do about low ratings until Broadcast House starts showing more news and less commercials. Watch 7 for an hour straight. They will do the news for a minute, do three minutes of commercials, come back for less than a minute, and go right back into 3 minutes of commercials. Who is going to sit through all that without reaching for the remote?
When do they do that exactly?
If you're talking about what I left quoted, you must not watch that station before GMA comes on. All kidding aside. Like I said, sit and watch for an hour before 7am.
That’s exactly when I’m not awake.
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:29 pm
by Rate This
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:58 am
Is that blowhard who bent over backwards to try to keep that sleazebag, Malcom Maddox, on the job still WXYZ's GM?
Is the same moron still forcing anchor talent to drive 17 miles from Southfield to downtown Detroit to anchor the 12PM news, or has Circle 7 finally done away with that idiotic concept?
Yes Mike Murray is still in charge... he’s been at 7 since 1982 or 83 for whatever that’s worth... so you need not wait too much longer.
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:28 pm
by Fred
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:58 am
Is that blowhard who bent over backwards to try to keep that sleazebag, Malcom Maddox, on the job still WXYZ's GM?
No, that was Ed Fernandez. Mike Murri started as GM after that "event"
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:42 pm
by Fred
re-read this in4mu, I would be curious to see who Scott Jones' sources are. The memo states that she decided to leave and agreed to stay until mid January. Scott credits "sources" to completely flip that narrative. Coincidentally , 2 days later the GM sent his weekly "Staying Connected" newsletter to the station that included this;
"NOVEMBER RATINGS HIGHLIGHTS
A H*** congratulations to our entire team for the strong ratings performance in November. WXYZ & WMYD had significant news share growth, year over year, in all of our November newscasts!
· 6AM Action News: 20% increased news share
· 7 Action News at 4PM: 14% increased news share
· 5PM Action News: 25% increased news share
· 6PM Action News: 15.7% increased news share
· 7PM Action News: 30% increased ratings growth
· 7 Action News 10PM on TV20 Detroit: 18% increased ratings growth
· 11PM Action News: 37% increased news share
Thank you for all your hard work and efforts! The ratings success in November is a total station collaborative effort!"
Maybe she needed to go and they canned her, but this looks like they asked her to stay. Regardless, good luck to her and I hope they get a game changer in next that keeps them heading in the right direction.
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:17 pm
by Rate This
Fred wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:42 pm
re-read this in4mu, I would be curious to see who Scott Jones' sources are. The memo states that she decided to leave and agreed to stay until mid January. Scott credits "sources" to completely flip that narrative. Coincidentally , 2 days later the GM sent his weekly "Staying Connected" newsletter to the station that included this;
"NOVEMBER RATINGS HIGHLIGHTS
A H*** congratulations to our entire team for the strong ratings performance in November. WXYZ & WMYD had significant news share growth, year over year, in all of our November newscasts!
· 6AM Action News: 20% increased news share
· 7 Action News at 4PM: 14% increased news share
· 5PM Action News: 25% increased news share
· 6PM Action News: 15.7% increased news share
· 7PM Action News: 30% increased ratings growth
· 7 Action News 10PM on TV20 Detroit: 18% increased ratings growth
· 11PM Action News: 37% increased news share
Thank you for all your hard work and efforts! The ratings success in November is a total station collaborative effort!"
Maybe she needed to go and they canned her, but this looks like they asked her to stay. Regardless, good luck to her and I hope they get a game changer in next that keeps them heading in the right direction.
This accounting of the ratings matches what we know publicly. They were up a bit at 2’s expense.
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:17 pm
by Rate This
Fred wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:28 pm
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:58 am
Is that blowhard who bent over backwards to try to keep that sleazebag, Malcom Maddox, on the job still WXYZ's GM?
No, that was Ed Fernandez. Mike Murri started as GM after that "event"
Didn’t Fernandez get promoted?
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:45 pm
by Fred
Yes, to VP/Gm of something. I think outwest. Ed was in charge of Dave Manny and Tim Dye at XYZ.
Re: TV News Ratings November 2020
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:49 pm
by Fred
Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:17 pm
Fred wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:42 pm
re-read this in4mu, I would be curious to see who Scott Jones' sources are. The memo states that she decided to leave and agreed to stay until mid January. Scott credits "sources" to completely flip that narrative. Coincidentally , 2 days later the GM sent his weekly "Staying Connected" newsletter to the station that included this;
"NOVEMBER RATINGS HIGHLIGHTS
A H*** congratulations to our entire team for the strong ratings performance in November. WXYZ & WMYD had significant news share growth, year over year, in all of our November newscasts!
· 6AM Action News: 20% increased news share
· 7 Action News at 4PM: 14% increased news share
· 5PM Action News: 25% increased news share
· 6PM Action News: 15.7% increased news share
· 7PM Action News: 30% increased ratings growth
· 7 Action News 10PM on TV20 Detroit: 18% increased ratings growth
· 11PM Action News: 37% increased news share
Thank you for all your hard work and efforts! The ratings success in November is a total station collaborative effort!"
Maybe she needed to go and they canned her, but this looks like they asked her to stay. Regardless, good luck to her and I hope they get a game changer in next that keeps them heading in the right direction.
This accounting of the ratings matches what we know publicly. They were up a bit at 2’s expense.
Yes, but still up. Significantly at 2's expense. So they must have fired her for ratings.