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MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 10:17 pm
What a disgraceful performance for the Wolverines (win or lose). They seem completely unmotivated and unprepared.
I was a big proponent of Whittingham. Now, I feel like I have egg on my face.
After one game?
Absolutely. That was an extremely embarrassing performance on the offensive end of the field given the opponent. One of the very worst performances of my lifetime, even including the Brady Hoke era.
The students storming the field after the walk-off Hail Mary TD was somewhat embarrassing given the opponent. I'd also love to know the official explanation for putting a second back on the clock. I can only surmise the official timekeeper had a different reading as to time left than the scoreboard clock. I sure hope the Big Ten didn't orchestrate a screw job. I'd be irate if I were the MAC commissioner, the WMU AD, etc.
bmw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 11:14 pm
People are losing their minds all over reddit. As they should be.
This is, in my opinion, the most egregious robbing of a victory from a team on live TV in the history of college football. I mean, how do you fuck that up? They have replay. They have clocks that are supposedly synced to the camera views. And Terry McAulay verified that the on-screen clock was perfectly synced to the official clock. It wasn't even close.
Not often I agree with you, but this is the truth.
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MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 10:17 pm
What a disgraceful performance for the Wolverines (win or lose). They seem completely unmotivated and unprepared.
I was a big proponent of Whittingham. Now, I feel like I have egg on my face.
After one game?
They looked like hot garbage and got run over up and down the field by Western.
Again, one game. Western moved the ball and ate up clock - they scored no touchdowns. The defense played well enough, but the offense didn't do its part except for the first and last drives.
They regularly drop 40-70 in the Big 12. There is no way they can play this way against Oklahoma and hope to have them have 12 on the last play with some miracle chance to win. Bryce Underwood is the most overrated guy I’ve ever seen. He fucking sucks. How he was a number 1 recruit is something that eluded me last year and it’s worse now.
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 10:17 pm
What a disgraceful performance for the Wolverines (win or lose). They seem completely unmotivated and unprepared.
I was a big proponent of Whittingham. Now, I feel like I have egg on my face.
After one game?
They looked like hot garbage and got run over up and down the field by Western.
Again, one game. Western moved the ball and ate up clock - they scored no touchdowns. The defense played well enough, but the offense didn't do its part except for the first and last drives.
They regularly drop 40-70 in the Big 12. There is no way they can play this way against Oklahoma and hope to have them have 12 on the last play with some miracle chance to win. Bryce Underwood is the most overrated guy I’ve ever seen. He fucking sucks. How he was a number 1 recruit is something that eluded me last year and it’s worse now.
I feel that was Devin Gardner, but Underwood is up there.
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MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 10:17 pm
What a disgraceful performance for the Wolverines (win or lose). They seem completely unmotivated and unprepared.
I was a big proponent of Whittingham. Now, I feel like I have egg on my face.
After one game?
They looked like hot garbage and got run over up and down the field by Western.
Again, one game. Western moved the ball and ate up clock - they scored no touchdowns. The defense played well enough, but the offense didn't do its part except for the first and last drives.
They regularly drop 40-70 in the Big 12. There is no way they can play this way against Oklahoma and hope to have them have 12 on the last play with some miracle chance to win. Bryce Underwood is the most overrated guy I’ve ever seen. He fucking sucks. How he was a number 1 recruit is something that eluded me last year and it’s worse now.
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 10:17 pm
What a disgraceful performance for the Wolverines (win or lose). They seem completely unmotivated and unprepared.
I was a big proponent of Whittingham. Now, I feel like I have egg on my face.
After one game?
They looked like hot garbage and got run over up and down the field by Western.
Again, one game. Western moved the ball and ate up clock - they scored no touchdowns. The defense played well enough, but the offense didn't do its part except for the first and last drives.
They regularly drop 40-70 in the Big 12. There is no way they can play this way against Oklahoma and hope to have them have 12 on the last play with some miracle chance to win. Bryce Underwood is the most overrated guy I’ve ever seen. He fucking sucks. How he was a number 1 recruit is something that eluded me last year and it’s worse now.
Oklahoma is in the SEC.
Ah you’re right my bad. Oklahoma is still a team that drops a fair bit on opponents.
For example they dropped 51 on their unranked opponent.
bmw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 11:01 pm
They re-visited the replay and it wasn't even close. That game was over at 0:00 with the ball CLEARLY still in the air.
This will be a BIG controversy.
100%. It's stuff like this that lends credibility to claims it's all rigged.
Given the massive proliferation of sports wagering, one must wonder if that influenced the decision to put :01 back on the game clock.
These officials gave Western a first down when they didn't even make it to the original line of scrimmage. Whether the extra second should have been added or not doesn't change the fact that Buchanan made a hell of a statistically improbable play to win the game. Michigan definitely played like shit today and hopefully they'll use this experience as a wakeup call.
bmw wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 11:01 pm
They re-visited the replay and it wasn't even close. That game was over at 0:00 with the ball CLEARLY still in the air.
This will be a BIG controversy.
100%. It's stuff like this that lends credibility to claims it's all rigged.
Given the massive proliferation of sports wagering, one must wonder if that influenced the decision to put :01 back on the game clock.
It had no impact on the line. Michigan was favored by 26 or 27.
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 11:35 pm
Given the massive proliferation of sports wagering, one must wonder if that influenced the decision to put :01 back on the game clock.
It didn't affect the spread. And the money line was anywhere from -5000 to -10,000 depending on the book. I can't imagine many bettors were betting $100 to win $1 or $2. At most some parlays were destroyed. Not to mention, from the ref's point of view, even giving Michigan another play they were still pretty unlikely to connect on a Hail Mary. Maybe 10:1 odds at the time?
I don't buy rigging here. I think it was a combination of utter incompetence and bias. No way in hell Western Michigan gets that second there if the tables were turned. Fans may have burned down the stadium.
MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 11:35 pm
Given the massive proliferation of sports wagering, one must wonder if that influenced the decision to put :01 back on the game clock.
It didn't affect the spread. And the money line was anywhere from -5000 to -10,000 depending on the book. I can't imagine many bettors were betting $100 to win $1 or $2. At most some parlays were destroyed. Not to mention, from the ref's point of view, even giving Michigan another play they were still pretty unlikely to connect on a Hail Mary. Maybe 10:1 odds at the time?
I don't buy rigging here. I think it was a combination of utter incompetence and bias. No way in hell Western Michigan gets that second there if the tables were turned. Fans may have burned down the stadium.
For rigging to work they would have to repeatedly do that. So if they add a second six times and Michigan eventually connects then… yeah.
Matt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2026 11:40 pm
These officials gave Western a first down when they didn't even make it to the original line of scrimmage. Whether the extra second should have been added or not doesn't change the fact that Buchanan made a hell of a statistically improbable play to win the game. Michigan definitely played like shit today and hopefully they'll use this experience as a wakeup call.
I watched the replay. It was very close, and it looked to me like he did make a gain. Was kinda hard to tell how much.
But that's not as precise and not remotely comparable to a blatantly obvious clock that you have perfectly synced with the camera. The first camera frame where the clock reads 0:00, just look for the ball. If it was at the edge of his fingertips and it was hard to tell whether there's a gap there or not that's one thing. But you could drive a semi truck through the gap. Refs in basketball and baseball make these kinds of safe/out and who was the ball out of bounds off of every single game. But a ref in a feature game can't see a gap that size? Come on.
The only way this was legit is if Terry McAulay was wrong. And he waited a good 3-4 minutes before verifying things. If he was wrong, he really put his reputation on the line here.