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Trumpwatch 2.0

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km1125 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:42 pm
Rate This wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:08 pm
km1125 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:46 pm
teetoppz28 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:36 pm
km1125 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:08 pm
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km1125 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:58 pm
Rate This wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:12 am The Justice Department has directed prosecutors to investigate local jurisdictions that try to obstruct immigration enforcement.
As they should. If you or I or any other citizen was obstructing law enforcement in their duties, you'd probably be charged too.
You don't support state's rights?
What does that have to do with anything?
One word for you: Federalism.
Again, what does that have to do with anything??

There are certain roles designated to the federal government. Two of them being defense and immigration. The federal government is not telling the states they have to take over the task of immigration, but the states (well, just SOME of the states) are actively interfering with the federal government in their attempts to execute their assigned duties.
Actually before the Chinese exclusion act of 1882 there was nobody giving a flying fuck about immigration and worrying about who was coming in and all this blah blah blah… so nothing formally designates the Feds as arbiters of immigration. The constitution doesn’t even have the word in it. Worrying about it is a newer thing.
Maybe you need to reread (or read for the first time) Section 8. Definitely gives the Federal government authority over naturalization. While the SCOTUS originally recognized that States could have a limited role in this, they later confirmed it was exclusively a Federal function.
It had to be assumed and determined… but they did that not through directly having immigration in the text but rather using other parts to infer what they wanted from it. It’s not really in there. Related subjects certainly are. Recall also that interpreting what is constitutional or not IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION as a role for the Supreme Court. They did it one day and nobody stopped them.

Congress would be well within its rights to pass legislation banning the court from further rulings on what’s constitutional or not.
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MegaHertz wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:21 pm Just checking in. Any XOs or anything for working/struggling Americans? I've been told the last four years that the president sets fuel and food prices.

If anyone would be so kind as to let me know. I'll keep watching here to see if that happens.
Me again - just got gas at Costco for $2.93/gallon. Two weeks ago, it was $2.69.
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Here is the weaponization order… I assumed this is what Beemer wanted to see.
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Purpose. The American people have witnessed the previous administration engage in a systematic campaign against its perceived political opponents, weaponizing the legal force of numerous Federal law enforcement agencies and the Intelligence Community against those perceived political opponents in the form of investigations, prosecutions, civil enforcement actions, and other related actions. These actions appear oriented more toward inflicting political pain than toward pursuing actual justice or legitimate governmental objectives. Many of these activities appear to be inconsistent with the Constitution and/or the laws of the United States, including those activities directed at parents protesting at school board meetings, Americans who spoke out against the previous administration’s actions, and other Americans who were simply exercising constitutionally protected rights.

The prior administration and allies throughout the country engaged in an unprecedented, third-world weaponization of prosecutorial power to upend the democratic process. It targeted individuals who voiced opposition to the prior administration’s policies with numerous Federal investigations and politically motivated funding revocations, which cost Americans access to needed services. The Department of Justice even jailed an individual for posting a political meme. And while the Department of Justice has ruthlessly prosecuted more than 1,500 individuals associated with January 6, and simultaneously dropped nearly all cases against BLM rioters.

Therefore, this order sets forth a process to ensure accountability for the previous administration’s weaponization of the Federal Government against the American people.

Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the United States to identify and take appropriate action to correct past misconduct by the Federal Government related to the weaponization of law enforcement and the weaponization of the Intelligence Community.

Sec. 3. Ending the Weaponization of the Federal Government. (a) The Attorney General, in consultation with the heads of all departments and agencies of the United States, shall take appropriate action to review the activities of all departments and agencies exercising civil or criminal enforcement authority of the United States, including, but not limited to, the Department of Justice, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the Federal Trade Commission, over the last 4 years and identify any instances where a department’s or agency’s conduct appears to have been contrary to the purposes and policies of this order, and prepare a report to be submitted to the President, through the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and the Counsel to the President, with recommendations for appropriate remedial actions to be taken to fulfill the purposes and policies of this order.

(b) The Director of National Intelligence, in consultation with the heads of the appropriate departments and agencies within the Intelligence Community, shall take all appropriate action to review the activities of the Intelligence Community over the last 4 years and identify any instances where the Intelligence Community’s conduct appears to have been contrary to the purposes and policies of this order, and prepare a report to be submitted to the President, through the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and the National Security Advisor, with recommendations for appropriate remedial actions to be taken to fulfill the purposes and policies of this order. The term “Intelligence Community” has the meaning given the term in section 3003 of title 50, United States Code.

(c) In furtherance of these policies, departments and agencies are directed to comply with applicable document-retention policies and legal obligations. Instances of noncompliance with document-retention policies or legal obligations will be referred to the Attorney General.

Sec. 4. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
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Ok, so the AG and the National Intelligence Director are going to investigate the activities of several government agencies over the past 4 years and report back to the President. So what? I don't see anything in there that says anything about any action that will be taken in response to any such reports.
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bmw wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:23 pm Ok, so the AG and the National Intelligence Director are going to investigate the activities of several government agencies over the past 4 years and report back to the President. So what? I don't see anything in there that says anything about any action that will be taken in response to any such reports.
“Well golly gee thanks for looking fellas… you’re swell”…

Riiighhhhttttt…

Are you really either so naive or gullible that you think they would make this happen after all his bitching and take NO ACTION? Give me a break man… you can’t possibly be this off the reservation…
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bmw wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:23 pm Ok, so the AG and the National Intelligence Director are going to investigate the activities of several government agencies over the past 4 years and report back to the President. So what? I don't see anything in there that says anything about any action that will be taken in response to any such reports.
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Matt wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:04 pm
MegaHertz wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:21 pm Just checking in. Any XOs or anything for working/struggling Americans? I've been told the last four years that the president sets fuel and food prices.

If anyone would be so kind as to let me know. I'll keep watching here to see if that happens.
Me again - just got gas at Costco for $2.93/gallon. Two weeks ago, it was $2.69.
You don't say. Hmm. That's weird.

I'm sure he's cooking something up. There's gotta be an EO in that pile somewhere. It's probably beneath the "Punching Babies and R@ping Waitresses Act".
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Trump in a visit to North Carolina says he is considering getting rid of FEMA. He’s insane.

Also something that will gladden Mega’s heart… 20% tariffs on Mexico and Canada and 10% on China starting February 1 or something along those lines. That’ll get those prices down!
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Rate This wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:07 pm Trump in a visit to North Carolina says he is considering getting rid of FEMA. He’s insane.

Also something that will gladden Mega’s heart… 20% tariffs on Mexico and Canada and 10% on China starting February 1 or something along those lines. That’ll get those prices down!
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Turkeytop wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:51 pm
Rate This wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:07 pm Trump in a visit to North Carolina says he is considering getting rid of FEMA. He’s insane.

Also something that will gladden Mega’s heart… 20% tariffs on Mexico and Canada and 10% on China starting February 1 or something along those lines. That’ll get those prices down!
Canada is the US largest supplier of oil. The 70 dollar barrel will now cost $84.
There goes that sub $3 gas…

Apparently Dr. Fauci has hired a private security detail after Trump revoked his federal one.
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Rate This wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:13 pm
Turkeytop wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:51 pm
Rate This wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:07 pm Trump in a visit to North Carolina says he is considering getting rid of FEMA. He’s insane.

Also something that will gladden Mega’s heart… 20% tariffs on Mexico and Canada and 10% on China starting February 1 or something along those lines. That’ll get those prices down!
Canada is the US largest supplier of oil. The 70 dollar barrel will now cost $84.
There goes that sub $3 gas…

Apparently Dr. Fauci has hired a private security detail after Trump revoked his federal one.
That's a revocation I'm ok with. The Pompeo one is atrocious. Trump is a vindictive cunt.
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bmw wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:43 pm Would anybody mind quoting the order? I don't see a link to anything, and I see the usual weasel words like "intention" and "possibly."
JFC, are you proficient at ANYTHING (other than a seventh grade math competition...)??

Here's the EO from the first result in a Google search:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... overnment/
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Prosecutions for blocking reproductive care facilities have been curtailed and three cases will be dismissed according to a Justice Department memo.
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The Supreme Court will consider whether to allow the nations first publicly funded religious charter school to open in Oklahoma. This is big on the list of a lot of folks Trump is aligned with.

I wonder how Linda McMahon feels on this issue…
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MegaHertz wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:12 am
Matt wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:04 pm
MegaHertz wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:21 pm Just checking in. Any XOs or anything for working/struggling Americans? I've been told the last four years that the president sets fuel and food prices.

If anyone would be so kind as to let me know. I'll keep watching here to see if that happens.
Me again - just got gas at Costco for $2.93/gallon. Two weeks ago, it was $2.69.
You don't say. Hmm. That's weird.

I'm sure he's cooking something up. There's gotta be an EO in that pile somewhere. It's probably beneath the "Punching Babies and R@ping Waitresses Act".
Uh oh - egg prices not looking good:
On a trip to a Walmart in Ozark, Mo., in early January, Laura Modrell was surprised to see shoppers “standing around and gasping” in the grocery’s dairy section. As she got closer, she saw that the shelves, where there would normally be stacks of egg cartons, were nearly empty.

“All of the normal-size cartons of eggs were practically gone,” Ms. Modrell said. “I heard some elderly people being really upset.”

Across the country, shoppers in grocery stores are facing empty shelves and higher prices for what has traditionally been an inexpensive source of protein: eggs.

And it’s likely to get worse.

Volatile egg prices have been a part of the grocery shopping experience partly because of inflation, but also because of an avian influenza, or bird flu, that made its way to the United States in 2022. That influenza, caused by the H5N1 virus, has infected or killed 136 million birds thus far.
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