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Re: Biden Speech

Post by bmw » Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:45 am

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Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:57 pm
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Just remember what happened last time the Dems did this (ie, Hillary's "Basket of Deplorables") (hint - she lost).
That was a sound bite that was useable… calling them “MAGA Republicans” is calling a spade a spade. They aren’t Regan Republicans or Cheney Republicans or Romney Republicans… they are MAGA or bust Republicans who have unbending loyalty to the guy who uses MAGA on bumper stickers. This ain’t a basket of deplorables dude…

There is no rallying point there and no sound byte to use to spark anything.
Usable sound bites aren't hard to find. Here are a few from a recent fundraising speech:
Trump and the extreme MAGA Republicans have made their choice, to go backwards; full of anger, hate, violence, and division.
The MAGA Republicans don't just threaten our personal rights and economic security; they're a threat to our very democracy.
So Hillary called them deplorables, racists, sexists, homophobes, etc. Biden called them a bunch of angry, hateful, violent divisive thugs who are a threat to personal rights, economic security, and our very democracy. I don't see how Biden's statements are any less "usable."

Lucky for him, his "semi-fascism" remark doesn't appear to exist on tape.



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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Rate This » Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:01 am

bmw wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:45 am
Rate This wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:57 pm
bmw wrote:
Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:52 pm
Just remember what happened last time the Dems did this (ie, Hillary's "Basket of Deplorables") (hint - she lost).
That was a sound bite that was useable… calling them “MAGA Republicans” is calling a spade a spade. They aren’t Regan Republicans or Cheney Republicans or Romney Republicans… they are MAGA or bust Republicans who have unbending loyalty to the guy who uses MAGA on bumper stickers. This ain’t a basket of deplorables dude…

There is no rallying point there and no sound byte to use to spark anything.
Usable sound bites aren't hard to find. Here are a few from a recent fundraising speech:
Trump and the extreme MAGA Republicans have made their choice, to go backwards; full of anger, hate, violence, and division.
The MAGA Republicans don't just threaten our personal rights and economic security; they're a threat to our very democracy.
So Hillary called them deplorables, racists, sexists, homophobes, etc. Biden called them a bunch of angry, hateful, violent divisive thugs who are a threat to personal rights, economic security, and our very democracy. I don't see how Biden's statements are any less "usable."

Lucky for him, his "semi-fascism" remark doesn't appear to exist on tape.
You can make reasonable arguments for all of those things and they simply don’t have the salience of “basket of deplorables”… you *might* be able to put them in a campaign speech at some GOP event I suppose but those would be awfully clumsy in an ad and again you can make a case for those things.

He also bent over backwards and repeated several times he was talking about a subset of Republicans while talking to “reasonable Republicans”. Something close to that phrasing was in the speech repeatedly. They were very careful to avoid making Hillary’s mistake.

Again you have people running for Secretary of State and Governor in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona and Wisconsin who openly talk about remaking voting, awarding electors to the Republican in 24 regardless of the vote, purging the voter rolls entirely and starting over and a bunch of other things. It’s in American bizarro world stuff. And it’s a clear threat to democracy. Especially just awarding the electoral votes to their preferred candidate or refusing to sign the certificate if it doesn’t go their way and they are campaigning on it every day. Throw that in some ads with Biden’s speech and the Republicans look like monsters. The ads right themselves. The candidates from the GOP are so terrible this year because they are kowtowing to Trump and the election denial stuff that they are easy to hit on it. It’s self-inflicted on their part. Republicans need to move on from 2020, accept that they lost and figure out a way to win the popular vote and the electoral college so there is no question they are where we want to go as a nation. Instead they just keep doubling down on their positions. Normally functioning political parties the world over remake themselves when they lose all the time. It’s extremely strange that they refuse to.

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Re: Biden Speech

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:49 pm

The fact that Trump outright called Biden an "enemy of the state" should give all the Republicans here pause. He is sanctioning violence against our President.
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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Rate This » Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:08 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:49 pm
The fact that Trump outright called Biden an "enemy of the state" should give all the Republicans here pause. He is sanctioning violence against our President.
Precisely.

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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:17 pm

MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:49 pm
The fact that Trump outright called Biden an "enemy of the state" should give all the Republicans here pause. He is sanctioning violence against our President.
I'm starting to re-revaluate if Biden's speech was such a dumb move after all. It didn't make a bit of sense until Trump's Pennsylvania rally, but now it seems clear he got baited into making some really reprehensible comments. Dangerously shady shit. It also put him completely off track in terms of one of the main reasons for the event in the first place, that is to rally support for the GOP candidates seeking office in the midterm elections.

Praising Chinese President Xi for being smart: "He rules with an iron fist, 1.5 billion people, yeah I'd say he's smart," he continued. "Wouldn't you say he's smart?" while calling our President the aforementioned "enemy of the state". Suggesting that Dr. Oz’s opponent Lt. Gov. John Fetterman takes heroin, cocaine, crystal meth and fentanyl. That "Last week, the weirdo — he's a weirdo — Mark Zuckerberg came to the White House, kissed my ass all night" What the fuckity fuck? We already know Trump hates being called "Former" President but does that brain fry seem to think he's still taking visitors in the White House as late as last week?

The GOP had specifically asked Trump not be the focus of the midterms. Their strategy was to hammer on inflation, national security, and pro-life among other things and what they got is the Trump Circus 2.0 where unsurprisingly it's all about him. There seems to be some evidence that some GOP candidates are quietly reworking their websites to dial back the Trump rhetoric.

For Biden, what may have appeared to be a incredibly needlessly divisive speech may have in fact been one of the greatest troll jobs every executed in American politics and Trump steps right into it like it was a fresh, moist turd from a St. Bernard in the dog park.

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Re: Biden Speech

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:20 pm

Lester The Nightfly wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:17 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:49 pm
The fact that Trump outright called Biden an "enemy of the state" should give all the Republicans here pause. He is sanctioning violence against our President.
I'm starting to re-revaluate if Biden's speech was such a dumb move after all. It didn't make a bit of sense until Trump's Pennsylvania rally, but now it seems clear he got baited into making some really reprehensible comments. Dangerously shady shit. It also put him completely off track in terms of one of the main reasons for the event in the first place, that is to rally support for the GOP candidates seeking office in the midterm elections.

Praising Chinese President Xi for being smart: "He rules with an iron fist, 1.5 billion people, yeah I'd say he's smart," he continued. "Wouldn't you say he's smart?" while calling our President the aforementioned "enemy of the state". Suggesting that Dr. Oz’s opponent Lt. Gov. John Fetterman takes heroin, cocaine, crystal meth and fentanyl. That "Last week, the weirdo — he's a weirdo — Mark Zuckerberg came to the White House, kissed my ass all night" What the fuckity fuck? We already know Trump hates being called "Former" President but does that brain fry seem to think he's still taking visitors in the White House as late as last week?

The GOP had specifically asked Trump not be the focus of the midterms. Their strategy was to hammer on inflation, national security, and pro-life among other things and what they got is the Trump Circus 2.0 where unsurprisingly it's all about him. There seems to be some evidence that some GOP candidates are quietly reworking their websites to dial back the Trump rhetoric.

For Biden, what may have appeared to be a incredibly needlessly divisive speech may have in fact been one of the greatest troll jobs every executed in American politics and Trump steps right into it like it was a fresh, moist turd from a St. Bernard in the dog park.
I guess whatever takes the trash out in the form of imprisonment for threats is fine by me.
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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Rate This » Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:25 pm

Lester The Nightfly wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:17 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:49 pm
The fact that Trump outright called Biden an "enemy of the state" should give all the Republicans here pause. He is sanctioning violence against our President.
I'm starting to re-revaluate if Biden's speech was such a dumb move after all. It didn't make a bit of sense until Trump's Pennsylvania rally, but now it seems clear he got baited into making some really reprehensible comments. Dangerously shady shit. It also put him completely off track in terms of one of the main reasons for the event in the first place, that is to rally support for the GOP candidates seeking office in the midterm elections.

Praising Chinese President Xi for being smart: "He rules with an iron fist, 1.5 billion people, yeah I'd say he's smart," he continued. "Wouldn't you say he's smart?" while calling our President the aforementioned "enemy of the state". Suggesting that Dr. Oz’s opponent Lt. Gov. John Fetterman takes heroin, cocaine, crystal meth and fentanyl. That "Last week, the weirdo — he's a weirdo — Mark Zuckerberg came to the White House, kissed my ass all night" What the fuckity fuck? We already know Trump hates being called "Former" President but does that brain fry seem to think he's still taking visitors in the White House as late as last week?

The GOP had specifically asked Trump not be the focus of the midterms. Their strategy was to hammer on inflation, national security, and pro-life among other things and what they got is the Trump Circus 2.0 where unsurprisingly it's all about him. There seems to be some evidence that some GOP candidates are quietly reworking their websites to dial back the Trump rhetoric.

For Biden, what may have appeared to be a incredibly needlessly divisive speech may have in fact been one of the greatest troll jobs every executed in American politics and Trump steps right into it like it was a fresh, moist turd from a St. Bernard in the dog park.
Yeah given the speech last night in response to Biden (I want to watch it but unlike Biden’s 23 minute easy to listen to speech Trumps is 2 flippin HOURS long) I would say he baited Trump into making this about him. That isn’t gonna go well for the GOP especially with Democrats already energized about abortion. Dark Brandon strikes again.

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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Rate This » Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:57 pm

I made it an hour and 18 minutes into Trumps speech but it’s repetitive and meandering all over the place. He really needs to invest in a copy editor or something.

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Re: Biden Speech

Post by audiophile » Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:06 pm

Feehery: Biden’s disgraceful speech is proof that only divided government can heal nation’s soul

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA11wz9l

That speech was a dumb idea.
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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Rate This » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:24 pm

audiophile wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:06 pm
Feehery: Biden’s disgraceful speech is proof that only divided government can heal nation’s soul

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA11wz9l

That speech was a dumb idea.
When Trump goes full bore fascist and calls Biden “An Enemy of the State” a couple days later it proves the speech worked as designed. Not a dumb idea in the least. The election is all about Trump.

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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Matt » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:50 pm

Lester The Nightfly wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:17 pm
MotorCityRadioFreak wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:49 pm
The fact that Trump outright called Biden an "enemy of the state" should give all the Republicans here pause. He is sanctioning violence against our President.
For Biden, what may have appeared to be a incredibly needlessly divisive speech may have in fact been one of the greatest troll jobs every executed in American politics and Trump steps right into it like it was a fresh, moist turd from a St. Bernard in the dog park.
This is the leftist version of "Trump's playing 4-D chess."
Voting for Trump is dumber than playing Russian Roulette with fully loaded chambers.

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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Matt » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:10 pm

Leaving these poll results right here: https://thepostmillennial.com/poll-majo ... e-conflict
The poll, conducted by the Trafalgar Group for the Convention of States Action, found that 56.8 percent of likely general election voters said that Biden’s speech in which he designated MAGA Republicans extremists "represents a dangerous escalation in rhetoric and is designed to incite conflict amongst Americans."
Voting for Trump is dumber than playing Russian Roulette with fully loaded chambers.

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Re: Biden Speech

Post by TC Talks » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:33 pm

audiophile wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:06 pm
Feehery: Biden’s disgraceful speech is proof that only divided government can heal nation’s soul

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA11wz9l

That speech was a dumb idea.
To the demigod worshipping types who support trump, it was a bad idea. But Biden wasn't talking to them.
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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Matt » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:36 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:33 pm
audiophile wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:06 pm
Feehery: Biden’s disgraceful speech is proof that only divided government can heal nation’s soul

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA11wz9l

That speech was a dumb idea.
To the demigod worshipping types who support trump, it was a bad idea. But Biden wasn't talking to them.
Oh really...
A vast majority of Republicans, 89.1 percent, said that Biden’s speech "represents a dangerous escalation," with just 4.7 percent saying it was "acceptable," and 6.2 percent saying they weren’t sure.
62.4 percent of independent voters said the speech was a "dangerous escalation," while 31.2 percent said it was "acceptable."
Overall 35.5% thought it was a good idea - 64.5% did not.
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Re: Biden Speech

Post by Rate This » Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:57 pm

Matt wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:36 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:33 pm
audiophile wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:06 pm
Feehery: Biden’s disgraceful speech is proof that only divided government can heal nation’s soul

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA11wz9l

That speech was a dumb idea.
To the demigod worshipping types who support trump, it was a bad idea. But Biden wasn't talking to them.
Oh really...
A vast majority of Republicans, 89.1 percent, said that Biden’s speech "represents a dangerous escalation," with just 4.7 percent saying it was "acceptable," and 6.2 percent saying they weren’t sure.
62.4 percent of independent voters said the speech was a "dangerous escalation," while 31.2 percent said it was "acceptable."
Overall 35.5% thought it was a good idea - 64.5% did not.
Trafalgar is a Republican house and they have been producing some overly generous polls for Republicans this cycle... I'll pass on information from a company that says the governors race in NEW YORK is 3 points.

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