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Trump says …. Get Vaxxed!!!!!

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Reagan4prez
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Re: Trump says …. Get Vaxxed!!!!!

Post by Reagan4prez » Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:28 pm

Mr.Transistor wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:42 pm
Even Donald Trump wants to save himself from getting Covid. Yet the zombies from the far right side of the party have really taken it to the extreme with the govt can't tell me what to do mantra. Can't help those that refuse to help themselves.
The vaccine and any number of boosters does not “save” anyone from getting Covid.

Regardless of vaccination status:

1. You can get Covid.
2. You can spread Covid.
3. You can die from Covid.
4. And as an added bonus, nine people have died from blood clots resulting from the vaccine. So there’s that.



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Re: Trump says …. Get Vaxxed!!!!!

Post by Reagan4prez » Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:15 am

Rate This wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:01 am
Reagan4prez wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:28 pm
Mr.Transistor wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:42 pm
Even Donald Trump wants to save himself from getting Covid. Yet the zombies from the far right side of the party have really taken it to the extreme with the govt can't tell me what to do mantra. Can't help those that refuse to help themselves.
The vaccine and any number of boosters does not “save” anyone from getting Covid.

Regardless of vaccination status:

1. You can get Covid.
2. You can spread Covid.
3. You can die from Covid.
4. And as an added bonus, nine people have died from blood clots resulting from the vaccine. So there’s that.
9 out of how many? The rest of it is a red herring not worth the time of day.
When four kids died from the Oxford shooter, you thought their lives mattered. Apparently these nine don’t.

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Re: Trump says …. Get Vaxxed!!!!!

Post by Reagan4prez » Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:29 am

Rate This wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:01 am
Reagan4prez wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:28 pm
Mr.Transistor wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:42 pm
Even Donald Trump wants to save himself from getting Covid. Yet the zombies from the far right side of the party have really taken it to the extreme with the govt can't tell me what to do mantra. Can't help those that refuse to help themselves.
The vaccine and any number of boosters does not “save” anyone from getting Covid.

Regardless of vaccination status:

1. You can get Covid.
2. You can spread Covid.
3. You can die from Covid.
4. And as an added bonus, nine people have died from blood clots resulting from the vaccine. So there’s that.
9 out of how many? The rest of it is a red herring not worth the time of day.
Those nine are just from a specific blood clot caused by the J and J death shot.

The CDC says the actual number since December of 2020 is 10,483, but those lives don’t matter, right?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... vents.html

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Re: Trump says …. Get Vaxxed!!!!!

Post by Reagan4prez » Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:30 am

Honeyman wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:10 am
bmw wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:06 am
Hey if you want to look at a single case to try to make a point, go ahead. I'm looking at the entirety of the data we have available. And the data isn't even close. With each passing week and month, the slope of the trend line keeps getting steeper relative to correlation with vaccination rate.
FACT: If you are unvaxxed, you have a much better chance of DYING from Covid.

Most of us know this. Any idiot who doesn't acknowledge that...let the chips fall as they may.
The unvaxxed are surviving Covid.

Deal with it.

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Re: Trump says …. Get Vaxxed!!!!!

Post by Reagan4prez » Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:24 pm

FakeAndyStuart wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:45 pm
bmw wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:36 am
that math as you describe it simply doesn't make sense. If you have a state with a 76% vaccination rate vs a state with a 46% vaccination rate, that is equal to 24% unvaccinated vs. 54% unvaccinated. If the case rates are 3x higher in the 24% unvaxxed state than in the 54% unvaxxed state, and if it was mostly unvaccinated people getting the virus, that equals a ratio of 8:54, or 6.75x. That would mean that for SOME reason, unvaccinated people in one state are getting sick at a rate 6.75x faster than unvaccinated people in another state. Comparing unvaccainted people in different states should be something at least closet to an apples-to-apples comparison. But a 6.75x rate difference, at least in the world of statistical analysis, is so far outside the bounds of acceptable standard deviation that something else MUST be going on here.
This is why you should have paid attention when you took Statistics 101 in junior college. And you should also pay attention as to what people have said. Please note that I did NOT say the underlined statement above, which makes the rest of your calculations wrong.

What I posted (and what the data shows) is that in 26 states and NYCity, unvaccinated people are 5 x more likely to get infected and 13 x more likely to die from COVID. That's a pretty big sample size of over half the country, varied geographies and age groups.
“The No. 1 take-home message is that these vaccines are still working,” said Dr. David Dowdy, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. “If you saw these data for any disease other than Covid, what everyone’s eyes would be drawn to is the difference between the unvaccinated and fully vaccinated lines.”
Splitting up this data by state doesn't make sense.
Reagan4prez wrote:
Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:29 am

The CDC says the actual number since December of 2020 is 10,483, but those lives don’t matter, right?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... vents.html
Nice try Sparky, but if you would actually read the page you referenced you could see that is the number of people reported to have died after getting the COVID vaccine. It clearly states, in BIG BOLD letters -
Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem.
I'm so glad you guys weren't around back in the 50's when vaccines virtually eliminated Polio.
Oh, but someone who died from decapitation, who also had Covid, died from Covid. Gotcha.

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Re: Trump says …. Get Vaxxed!!!!!

Post by Reagan4prez » Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:00 am

FakeAndyStuart wrote:
Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:59 pm
https://twitter.com/nospinnews/status/1 ... 03400?s=21


“We’ve saved tens of millions of lives.” “You’re playing right into their hands when you say ‘Oh the vaccine is ..’” “The President and I are vaccinated - did you get the booster?” A reluctant “Yes”. Crowd boos. Wow.
And why wouldn’t he?

Anyone who gets the vaccine and booster is 100% protected from COVID-19 and omicron. They are responsible citizens who fully follow whatever someone in authority tells them to do. They’re compliant.

However, once another booster is developed and they refuse to get it, they are anti-vaxxers worthy of death and hell.

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Re: Trump says …. Get Vaxxed!!!!!

Post by Reagan4prez » Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:37 am

Robert Faygo wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:22 am
See the chart from Munson above. Then go look at similar charts from hospital systems across the county. The percentages are the same.

While certainly not even close to perfect in preventing getting sick, the vaccinations ARE doing their job in keeping people from getting severely ill.

It's no longer a debate. You lost.
Regardless of vaccination status:

1. You can get Covid.
2. You can spread Covid.
3. You can die from Covid.
4. As a bonus, you could be one of the more than 10,000 that died from the shot.

Even unvaccinated, you have a more than 98.2% chance of survival.

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Re: Trump says …. Get Vaxxed!!!!!

Post by Reagan4prez » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:55 pm

Rate This wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:49 am
Reagan4prez wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:37 am
Robert Faygo wrote:
Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:22 am
See the chart from Munson above. Then go look at similar charts from hospital systems across the county. The percentages are the same.

While certainly not even close to perfect in preventing getting sick, the vaccinations ARE doing their job in keeping people from getting severely ill.

It's no longer a debate. You lost.
Regardless of vaccination status:

1. You can get Covid.
2. You can spread Covid.
3. You can die from Covid.
4. As a bonus, you could be one of the more than 10,000 that died from the shot.

Even unvaccinated, you have a more than 98.2% chance of survival.
So there’s a 1.8% chance we can be rid of you?
I’m young, healthy, and take my own precautions. You’ll be putting up with me for a very long time.

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