I didn't say anything about private individuals or business deciding what type of firearms they decide to sell and to whom. As with the First Amendment, the Second Amendment applies to the government.Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:14 amIt already doesn’t. Any company that provides you space on its server or lets you have an account on its platform can ban you or remove you or censor you for any reason. The government has nothing to do with that. The first amendment is between you and the government and it means that they cannot arrest you for speaking your mind. That is the ONLY ONLY ONLY thing that it means. Anybody else can shut you the hell up. Now if they pummel you half to death so that you can no longer say whatever pissed them off that would be assault but it would not be a first amendment violation.Bryce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:09 amYour premise is faulty. The framers could have never imagined the World Wide Web. Should the First Amendment not apply to it?Rate This wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:15 amYou are attempting to bait me into saying AR-15 or AK-47... note that these are derived from military weapons. But the reality is that a gun that had a high capacity of bullets that can be fired at a high rate is not something the average person needs nor is it in keeping with the original intent of the framers. It couldn’t be. Such weapons did not exist. Admit that or forfeit the right to ever talk about the original intent of the framers again because it will be impossible to take you seriously at that point. You can’t pick and choose what original intent you wish to follow if that is truly a tenet of your beliefs in how the government is supposed to function.
It’s the same thing with Josh Hawley whining about Simon & Schuster dropping his book. It’s a business decision that they have a right to perform as they see fit. It is NOT NOT NOT a first amendment issue no matter how badly he wants to lie and dupe people into thinking it is. He knows better.
You simply don’t have the right to say whatever you want whenever you want to whomever you want without repercussions from those individuals unless they are the government and as long as such actions are not going to cause harm such as yelling FIRE! in a crowded theatre.
My premise isn’t faulty, your assumption that the first amendment applies to the internet in any meaningful way is.
So you're fine with the GOVERNMENT censoring speech, thoughts and ideas on the www because it wasn't created or imagined by the Framers?