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SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by Rate This » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:07 pm

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Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:51 pm
The busybodies at 4 have nothing better to do than tattle on people who are living free lives.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/def ... ome-order/

This happened under Mao and Hitler. People tattling on their neighbors like children.

Great to see Local 4 is using its “essential” status to turn on those who live freely.
How fluffy...

4’s coronavirus coverage has been rather pathetic. 7 has generally done a better job during the week on it.



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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by Turkeytop » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:21 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:51 pm
The busybodies at 4 have nothing better to do than tattle on people who are living free lives.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/def ... ome-order/

This happened under Mao and Hitler. People tattling on their neighbors like children.

Great to see Local 4 is using its “essential” status to turn on those who live freely.

Yes. No TV station should ever be allowed to expose crime in the community.


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by audiophile » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:32 pm

Golfing is outdoors, I don't see what the fuss is about. Just don't pick up the used balls until next morning.


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by audiophile » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:40 pm

The goofy blonde said "...the state law that's been handed down".

Uhhh no! It's an Executive Order. They can't even get that right.


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by audiophile » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:45 pm

The governor just said we can get out and exercise: walking, biking, canoeing, etc. just stay 6' feet apart.

What's wrong with golfing again?


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by Turkeytop » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:56 pm

So laws aren't absolute. We can all just make our own determination as to the merits of the law, then decide whether or not to comply.

Isn't an executive order law, unless overturned by the courts?


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by audiophile » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:20 pm

No, an executive order is just an executive order. It's temporary and any first-time violations of it are pretty much not enforceable, because they have prove you did it intentionally or a not just misunderstanding of the executive order.

It's ripe for abuse so the bar is set very high for conviction. I think of an Executive Order a lot like the Roscoe P Coltrain have remoteable signs, changing the speed limit depending on who goes by. The EO could change so fast you could easily do something unknowingly.


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by Rate This » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:23 pm

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No executive order is just an executive order. It's temporary and any first-time violations of it are pretty much not enforceable, because they have prove you did it intentionally or a not just misunderstanding of the executive order.

It's ripe for abuse so the bar is set very high for conviction. I think of an Executive Order a lot like the Roscoe P Coltrain have remoteable signs, changing the speed limit depending on who goes by. The EO could change so fast you could easily do something unknowingly.
It’s basically a temporary law and you can be ticketed for breaking it. The bar for a cop to do that is pretty high. Playing a basketball game outside will probably do the trick. Golf is another thing usually done in groups that tend not to stay 6 feet apart. 18 holes by yourself would be dreadfully boring for a game that is already dreadfully boring.



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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by Turkeytop » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:26 pm

18 holes by yourself would be dreadfully boring for a game that is already dreadfully boring.
Yes. My thoughts exactly. Even more boring than playing it would be watching it on TV. I know a guy who does that.


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by audiophile » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:32 pm

The janitor always asks you how's your aim?


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by Turkeytop » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:41 pm

A temporary law is still the law, as long as it remains in force.

What about trespassing? Is that a temporary law?


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by audiophile » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:44 pm

You can't enforce that unless the golf course owner complains.


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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by Rate This » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:57 pm

audiophile wrote:
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You can't enforce that unless the golf course owner complains.
Nonsense.. if you are clearly behind a no trespassing sign you can be cited without anyone complaining... all the cop has to do is see you back there and find your presence suspicious and you can be cited... where did you get such an unusual understanding of the way things work?



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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

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Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:57 pm
audiophile wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:44 pm
You can't enforce that unless the golf course owner complains.
Nonsense.. if you are clearly behind a no trespassing sign you can be cited without anyone complaining... all the cop has to do is see you back there and find your presence suspicious and you can be cited... where did you get such an unusual understanding of the way things work?
His education.



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Re: SHAME ON YOU, LOCAL 4

Post by Rate This » Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:05 pm

Vic Doucette wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:04 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:57 pm
audiophile wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:44 pm
You can't enforce that unless the golf course owner complains.
Nonsense.. if you are clearly behind a no trespassing sign you can be cited without anyone complaining... all the cop has to do is see you back there and find your presence suspicious and you can be cited... where did you get such an unusual understanding of the way things work?
His education.
Yikes...



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