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WPON WCXI Updates - 2020
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
It seems I have a persistent problem when I post to this board. After I finish typing, I hit the "SUBMIT" button, but the progress bar stops (indefinitely, if I take no further action) two-thirds of the way towards completion. I hit the "SUBMIT" bar again, and TWO duplicate posts are submitted to the board.
Last edited by innate-in-you on Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
I do remember that in late 1989-early 1990, I was working at a plant on Rochester Road near 15 Mile Road.CK-722 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:22 amWCXI is on STA with 250 watts nondirectional from the Wixom area site. The LIC site is still in Fenton. Normally, they don't show the STA contours. I have heard nothing to the effect that the WCXI phasor or transmitter have been installed. The WCXI CP expires 2-15-20.
Based on an 82.8 degree tower with 250 watts and using M-3 (likely to overestimate signal in this area), the 2 mV/m contour would go out about 16 miles, and the 0.5 mV/m would go out about 31 miles. The licensed WPON site at Benstein and Loon Lake Rd., about three miles East, showed much lower field strength than predicted by M-3. As I recall, at 27 miles East the signal was only about 1/3 to 1/2 of the predicted value. I seem to remember that it was around 170 uV/m that I measured, but my measurements can't be located.
WPON had a weak signal there using the Benstein site.
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You only need to hit submit once.It seems I have a persistent problem when I post to this board. After I finish typing, I hit the "SUBMIT" button, but the progress bar stops (indefinitely, if I take no further action) two-thirds of the way towards completion. I hit the "SUBMIT" bar again, and TWO duplicate posts are submitted to the board.
Navigate to a different page, then come back, and your post will appear. I apologize for this issue. It happens to me, too. It's a problem between phpBB and Cloudflare. I wish I could find a solution to resolve the issue for good, but I've been unsuccessful. I do not want to eliminate Cloudflare, as it's been extremely effective at eliminating undesired bot traffic.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.ex ... _num=10475
"WCXI HOLDS AN AUTHORIZATION FOR CONSTRUCTION OF AN IMPROVED FACILITY WITH A POWER INCREASE. ALTHOUGH MUCH OF THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE NEW FACILITY HAS BEEN COMPLETED, IT IS NOT YET READY FOR LICENSING. IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC, WCXI IS REQUESTING SPECIAL TEMPORARY AUTHORITY TO OPERATE IN NON-DIRECTIONAL MODE FROM ONE OF THE TOWERS AT THE AUTHORIZED CONSTRUCTION PERMIT SITE. IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 73.1615(B)(3), AUTHORITY IS REQUESTED TO OPERATE DAY AND NIGHT AT 25% OF THE LICENSED POWER."
"AS DISCUSSED WITH FCC STAFF, THE TRANSMITTER AT THE CURRENT LICENSED SITE FOR WCXI HAS FAILED. THE STATION IS IN THE PROCESS OF RELOCATING AND THE NEW SITE IS FUNCTIONAL FOR THE STA OPERATIONS. THE LICENSEE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS OPERATIONS AT 250 WATTS NON-DIRECTIONAL FOR A PERIOD OF 180 DAYS. WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD A LICENSE TO COVER THE NEW TRANSMITTER SITE WILL HAVE BEEN FILED AND THIS STA WILL BECOME MOOT."
The temporary authority to operate at 250 watts non-directional expires on: 12/23/2019
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WCXI - MINOR MODIFICATION TO A CONSTRUCTION PERMIT
THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN ADVISED BY COUNSEL AND FCC STAFF THAT COMPLIANCE WITH THE NATIONWIDE PROGRAMMATIC AGREEMENT AND NHPA SECTION 106 FOR NEW TOWER CONSTRUCTION REMAINS VALID AND GRANDFATHERED UNDER PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED WPON (AM), WALLED LAKE MI, CONSTRUCTION PERMIT BP-20150330AAI, GRANTED ON 05/15/2015. THIS CONSTRUCTION PERMIT HAS EXPIRED AND HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH APPLICATION FILE NO. BP-20180516AAA. BOTH THE WPON AND WCXI ARE TO BE CO-LOCATED AND CO-DIPLEXED OPERATION WITH ONE ANOTHER. AS A RESULT, CURRENT SITE COMPLIANCE WITH THE NATIONWIDE PROGRAMMATIC AGREEMENT AND NHPA SECTION 106 FOR NEW TOWER CONSTRUCTION WILL REMAIN VALID WITH THE GRANT OF AND UNTIL THE EXPIRATION OF WPON(AM) CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.ex ... _num=10475
ENGINEERING REPORT
MINOR CHANGE TO CONSTRUCTION
PERMIT APPLICATION
Application: BMP-20190402AAV
WCXI(AM) – Fenton, MI (1160 kHz)
Facility ID No. 10475
License No. BL-19851126AA
November 2019
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Att ... &exhcnum=1
RF Study WPON - WCXI
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Att ... &exhcnum=1
THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN ADVISED BY COUNSEL AND FCC STAFF THAT COMPLIANCE WITH THE NATIONWIDE PROGRAMMATIC AGREEMENT AND NHPA SECTION 106 FOR NEW TOWER CONSTRUCTION REMAINS VALID AND GRANDFATHERED UNDER PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED WPON (AM), WALLED LAKE MI, CONSTRUCTION PERMIT BP-20150330AAI, GRANTED ON 05/15/2015. THIS CONSTRUCTION PERMIT HAS EXPIRED AND HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH APPLICATION FILE NO. BP-20180516AAA. BOTH THE WPON AND WCXI ARE TO BE CO-LOCATED AND CO-DIPLEXED OPERATION WITH ONE ANOTHER. AS A RESULT, CURRENT SITE COMPLIANCE WITH THE NATIONWIDE PROGRAMMATIC AGREEMENT AND NHPA SECTION 106 FOR NEW TOWER CONSTRUCTION WILL REMAIN VALID WITH THE GRANT OF AND UNTIL THE EXPIRATION OF WPON(AM) CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.ex ... _num=10475
ENGINEERING REPORT
MINOR CHANGE TO CONSTRUCTION
PERMIT APPLICATION
Application: BMP-20190402AAV
WCXI(AM) – Fenton, MI (1160 kHz)
Facility ID No. 10475
License No. BL-19851126AA
November 2019
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Att ... &exhcnum=1
RF Study WPON - WCXI
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Att ... &exhcnum=1
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
just change the call-letters of these two to WZOM and WZMB... they're zombie stations at this point
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
New Authorization For WPON - December 26, 2019
http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/puba ... 811284.pdf
http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/puba ... 811284.pdf
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
There's no way in hell WPON is broadcasting at its licensed ERP.
Signal here is VERY faint!!
Signal here is VERY faint!!
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
WPON is loud and clear here at Telegraph & Quarton.
"Don't you knock when you enter a room?"
Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
They COULD be at full power, if as predicted the site has abysmal conductivity. It's hard to say if you are only a few miles away. Doesn't stop the scan at Preston Corners.MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:22 pmThere's no way in hell WPON is broadcasting at its licensed ERP.
Signal here is VERY faint!!
Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
When the TX site was near Walled Lake (just a few miles farther east), I always picked up WPON during daytime hours clear as a bell in Warren, Troy, and much of Sterling Heights.
I'm having trouble believing a move just a few miles farther west with all new equipment and a minor reduction in ERP would produce such terrible reception in the 14 Mile & Woodward Ave. area if the station were truly running its licensed 670 watts...that is unless a half-assed job was done on the build-out.
I'm having trouble believing a move just a few miles farther west with all new equipment and a minor reduction in ERP would produce such terrible reception in the 14 Mile & Woodward Ave. area if the station were truly running its licensed 670 watts...that is unless a half-assed job was done on the build-out.
Morgan Wallen is a piece of garbage.
Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
I heard that Harold Munn told them not to move to Benstein and Loon Lake Rd because it was so much worse than Square Lake and Telegraph. It may have been Colonel Flagg who told me that. 3 miles West is probably worse yet. You may be in a minimum. Or it could be all of the above.
Is THAT where they got the idea for the 486-SX?
Same (x, y, z), different (t)
Your bullet missed my trial balloon.
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Same (x, y, z), different (t)
Your bullet missed my trial balloon.
RTN Price. Not guaranteed. As of 12:30, 157.71 Down 0.22.
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
It was a bit scratchy in the Royal Oak area yesterday near the zoo. Still weak in the Canton area.
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Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
Metal here are some questions for the forum to either answer or speculate on:MWmetalhead wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:22 pmThere's no way in hell WPON is broadcasting at its licensed ERP. Signal here is VERY faint!!
1. Could it be that WPON was never meant to be a "Detroit" station whose signal would cover the entire Detroit market?
2. Was WPON in the very beginning just a station serving Pontiac as their goal?
3. If no to the two questions above why then didn't they or haven't they applied for 5,000 watts which would give them good coverage in all of the Detroit market which would eliminate the reception issues that some forum members here (like yourself) have pointed out?
4. And before you ask here are some nearby stations either on or slightly above 1460:
Here from Michiguide.com
Nearby stations on 1460 and 1470:
1460 WBRN Big Rapids
1460 WKAM Goshen, IN
1460 WPON Walled Lake
1470 WFNT Flint
1470 WLQR Toledo
Re: WPON WCXI Updates - 2019
It was before my time, but I believe WPON was originally just focused on Oakland County. Pontiac and Royal Oak were the large cities then, with Southfield growing. I know it isn’t supposed to cover the entire market, but a scratchy signal not too far from the transmitter is an issue. Look at how far 1520 in Toledo goes on just 500 watts. Admittedly, the major lobe shoots north.
WLQR Toledo no longer exists, so no issues there. Is 1480 WSDS a factor? 1440? How about 1450 WHLS?
WLQR Toledo no longer exists, so no issues there. Is 1480 WSDS a factor? 1440? How about 1450 WHLS?