Warren cops are monsters

[F-Squared]

How did they even get away with this? Snow falls from the SKY. It melts into WATER. Is water going to hurt anyone, and more importantly, HOW DO YOU LITTER SNOW?

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[craig11152]

The thing is, having snow fly off your car roof, hood or trunk on to the roadway is against state law..... 257.677a (4)
I don't know that littering is the appropriate ticket but sometimes state law doesn't get specific about what the ticket should be.
One lesson to had is to start your drive with a clean car.

[audiophile]

Brushing the snow off would also be considered littering, you can't win.

Perfect reason to move to a warmer climate.

[audiophile]

The thing is, having snow fly off your car roof, hood or trunk on to the roadway is against state law..... 257.677a (4)
I don't know that littering is the appropriate ticket but sometimes state law doesn't get specific about what the ticket should be.
One lesson to had is to start your drive with a clean car.

Of course starting your car to warm it up and melt it could also get you a ticket by these same folks.

[craig11152]

The thing is, having snow fly off your car roof, hood or trunk on to the roadway is against state law..... 257.677a (4)
I don't know that littering is the appropriate ticket but sometimes state law doesn't get specific about what the ticket should be.
One lesson to had is to start your drive with a clean car.

Of course starting your car to warm it up and melt it could also get you a ticket by these same folks.

I assume you mean Warren has an idling ordinance? I know Ann Arbor does but I don't know that anybody ever gets a ticket for it. It's pretty much complaint driven.

I'm not justifying the cop's decision to write a ticket. Cops have a certain amount of discretion which hopefully they use wisely. I think anybody who goes 45 in a 40 or has been let off with a warning appreciates discretion.
My point is that while "littering" may not have been the right ticket there is a state law in place. Maybe that cop was an "asshole" but that's different than " Warren cops are monsters"
Last summer my lovely wife got a ticket in Grosse Pointe for going 30 mph in a 25 mph zone. To make it worse she was following 2 friends who didn't get ticketed even though they were setting the pace.
Our collective response was basically "that cop was an asshole for writing the ticket", not "Grosse Pointe cops are monsters"

[km1125]

The thing is, having snow fly off your car roof, hood or trunk on to the roadway is against state law..... 257.677a (4)
I don't know that littering is the appropriate ticket but sometimes state law doesn't get specific about what the ticket should be.
One lesson to had is to start your drive with a clean car.

And what happens when you sit at a light, or stopped in rush-hour traffic during a heavy snow. Do you get out of your car and clean the top off again??

In the link, the Chief says “It is important that you take a few minutes clean the window, back, sides. It is your responsibility. It is a violation if you are driving with obstructed vision,” and then goes on to say "a traffic infraction for obstructing vision in his opinion is appropriate,"

Were any of his windows blocked with snow in the video?? Didn't look like it at all.

I wonder how much it's costing the victim in this case, with days off work and lawyers fees??

[fuzzpower]

I have heard Livonia cops are the same way, even from people living there.

I think a Roseville cop actually gave a guy a ticket for warming up his car in his driveway.

[Sam The Cat]

Now you know the law, so now you can follow it. Pretty simple actually.

[Sam The Cat]

Let me guess, you are a progressive liberal? right?

From snow and ice flying off a car roof to slavery. And you are calling me nuts.

I've been hit by big chunks of snow and ice flying off cars on the highway. It was not the funnest experience I've ever had. I can absolutely see the spirit of the law you are losing you mind over. And, in full disclosure, I break this law every day it snows in the winter because I think it looks kind of cool when the snow is blowing over my windshield. If, one day I get a ticket, I diverse it because now I know the law, it is still pretty simple.

[Turkeytop]

Let me guess, you are a progressive liberal? right?

From snow and ice flying off a car roof to slavery. And you are calling me nuts.

I've been hit by big chunks of snow and ice flying off cars on the highway. It was not the funnest experience I've ever had. I can absolutely see the spirit of the law you are losing you mind over. And, in full disclosure, I break this law every day it snows in the winter because I think it looks kind of cool when the snow is blowing over my windshield. If, one day I get a ticket, I diverse it because now I know the law, it is still pretty simple.

Be careful Sam, about acknowledging even the tiniest infraction to this guy. Next, he'll accuse you of being a mass murderer.

[Sam The Cat]

Sure, I'll play along.

You prefer to go buy the the pronouns Them and They.
I will guess you weigh about 140 lbs. so you are a little, little man...er them.
You like to wear black outfits and a black mask and hassle elderly people in the crosswalk.
Authority is always bad and you never do anything wrong.

I don't know you but I know people of your type. Big bad authority figures are always abusing you and your going to fight the man. Your type has been around forever and frankly I am sick of your type. A successful society has rules and normal, upstanding people follow rules. You'd think that would be simple.

So, go and find another story of the big bad police hassling the poor every-man. I think I will stick to radio and tv posts from now on.

[Mega Hertz]

I have heard Livonia cops are the same way, even from people living there.

I think a Roseville cop actually gave a guy a ticket for warming up his car in his driveway.

IIRC, Livonia cops are the only city cops I've seen sitting on a freeway. I always thought that was county/state jurisdiction. I always see a Livonia cop (or two) in the median of 275. Didn't know that was allowed.