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Your best ever car radio?

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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by F-Squared » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:49 pm

FET-500 wrote:
F-Squared wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 am
FET-500 wrote:
audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...
They didn't have cell phones with near-flawless audio in 1933

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Cellphones and near-flawless what? You're not an engineer I'm going to guess.
Yep, I'm not. Thought I shouldn't have said that.

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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:30 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:42 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:47 pm
I rent cars all the time, Chrysler has the best radios. Hyundai is near the worst.
VW used to be good.
VW more or less invented the pull-out radio. My sister had a '58 or '59 Beetle with a Blaupunkt that doubled as a portable.
A 59 used Sapphire radios as stock, not Blaupunkt. They were a popular aftermath option.
Those guys are the VW experts... I kinda hate them and their inability to control camber but the radios were neato. The restos for VW of America were all done at my sister's house.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:35 pm

F-Squared wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:49 pm
FET-500 wrote:
F-Squared wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:53 am
FET-500 wrote:
audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...
They didn't have cell phones with near-flawless audio in 1933

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Cellphones and near-flawless what? You're not an engineer I'm going to guess.
Yep, I'm not. Thought I shouldn't have said that.

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The audio transmitted by phones is really truncated; a severely compressed passband. No bass, no treble and no dynamic range.
Telephonic audio is terrible by design.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:42 pm

audiophile wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:52 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:51 am
audiophile wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:45 pm
It can sound good. Remember the inventor of FM touted the fact you could tell the difference between the sound of a crosscut saw or a rip saw. I think that qualifies as good.
You can do that with a phone...
Phones often lack bass response, FM tuners themselves do not.
Phones operate in a passband from 300 to around 3.5khz. There is no bass.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by TC Talks » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:23 pm

FET-500 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:30 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm
A 59 used Sapphire radios as stock, not Blaupunkt. They were a popular aftermath option.
Those guys are the VW experts... I kinda hate them and their inability to control camber but the radios were neato. The restos for VW of America were all done at my sister's house.
What era radios? Sapphire or Blaupunkt? My buddy maintains the vintage VWoA fleet for them.


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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:46 am

TC Talks wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:23 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:30 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm
A 59 used Sapphire radios as stock, not Blaupunkt. They were a popular aftermath option.
Those guys are the VW experts... I kinda hate them and their inability to control camber but the radios were neato. The restos for VW of America were all done at my sister's house.
What era radios? Sapphire or Blaupunkt? My buddy maintains the vintage VWoA fleet for them.
Robert Ellis? Prior to VW leaving Troy, that was Bob. It was weird the stuff you'd see.... oh, hay...isn't that a Hebmuller?



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by bmw » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:26 pm

My current radio is a Blaupunkt MP-76.

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AM unfortunately has narrow frequency response, but the FM - it has a "twinceiver" receiver with 2 separate antenna inputs and thus diversity reception (there are actually 2 separate fm tuners built into one). I've had it for years but have never gotten around to connecting a 2nd antenna. Now I'm kinda curious how much that would improve reception.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by bmw » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:28 pm

F-Squared wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:13 pm
Wow! That one looks great just by itself! In my opinion, that's a great way of using MDs. I've never seen such a setup to actually RECORD radio in the car

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I actually still own it - I converted it into a stand-alone home stereo powered by a 12v source. I don't currently have it hooked up to anything - I mainly kept it for playback of my minidisc collection and for its stellar FM reception.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by TC Talks » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:07 pm

FET-500 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:46 am
TC Talks wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:23 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:30 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm
A 59 used Sapphire radios as stock, not Blaupunkt. They were a popular aftermath option.
Those guys are the VW experts... I kinda hate them and their inability to control camber but the radios were neato. The restos for VW of America were all done at my sister's house.
What era radios? Sapphire or Blaupunkt? My buddy maintains the vintage VWoA fleet for them.
Robert Ellis? Prior to VW leaving Troy, that was Bob. It was weird the stuff you'd see.... oh, hay...isn't that a Hebmuller?
Bob still maintains them. The fleet remains in Michigan. He fired up a 1954 panel bus today for the first time since 1996. Who does the radio work?


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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by F-Squared » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:40 pm


bmw wrote:
F-Squared wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:13 pm
Wow! That one looks great just by itself! In my opinion, that's a great way of using MDs. I've never seen such a setup to actually RECORD radio in the car

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I actually still own it - I converted it into a stand-alone home stereo powered by a 12v source. I don't currently have it hooked up to anything - I mainly kept it for playback of my minidisc collection and for its stellar FM reception.
I don't blame you. It would be great for a home stereo. Actually it sounds so appealing, I might get one myself. We do happen to have lots of MDs at the station that go unused so this would be handy.

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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:33 am

TC Talks wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:07 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:46 am
TC Talks wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:23 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:30 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:45 pm
A 59 used Sapphire radios as stock, not Blaupunkt. They were a popular aftermath option.
Those guys are the VW experts... I kinda hate them and their inability to control camber but the radios were neato. The restos for VW of America were all done at my sister's house.
What era radios? Sapphire or Blaupunkt? My buddy maintains the vintage VWoA fleet for them.
Robert Ellis? Prior to VW leaving Troy, that was Bob. It was weird the stuff you'd see.... oh, hay...isn't that a Hebmuller?
Bob still maintains them. The fleet remains in Michigan. He fired up a 1954 panel bus today for the first time since 1996. Who does the radio work?
Dude...Bob moved to Manistee. He retired and bought a home on the edge of the forest.

I dunno' who does electrical restorations, I limited my involvement to repairing a couple of window regulators for them.



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by TC Talks » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:31 am

He did, I was down at his shop last week. The 1954 VW Barndoor Panel was in the garage. Clark at VWoA still has Bob work on the fleet...


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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:49 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:31 am
He did, I was down at his shop last week. The 1954 VW Barndoor Panel was in the garage. Clark at VWoA still has Bob work on the fleet...
The Telefunken van?



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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by TC Talks » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:55 pm

FET-500 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:49 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:31 am
He did, I was down at his shop last week. The 1954 VW Barndoor Panel was in the garage. Clark at VWoA still has Bob work on the fleet...
The Telefunken van?
Yep, and the Orange 21 is in his garage too.


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Re: Your best ever car radio?

Post by FET-500 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:33 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:55 pm
FET-500 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:49 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:31 am
He did, I was down at his shop last week. The 1954 VW Barndoor Panel was in the garage. Clark at VWoA still has Bob work on the fleet...
The Telefunken van?
Yep, and the Orange 21 is in his garage too.
Watch out for the bears.... The Ellis' are "flatland people" as I like to call them and this is a bad time of the year to keep that giant bag of birdseed on the deck. You guys have 500~600 lb black bear in that forest.



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