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Biden's Done...

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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by matt1 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:11 pm

I think that my brother Mike will say that Trump beats Biden in November of 2020.



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by Turkeytop » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:38 am

Trump in 2020. America adores Trump.


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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:57 am

If the economy is doing well and Trump delivers on the USMCA (what the fuck is taking so long to present it to Congress?), then he wins reelection with numbers similar to what he received last time.

Under that same set of circumstances, would also not surprise me if the House stays with the Dems.

I like divided government, personally. When the same party controls all branches of government, corruption and special interest handouts abound.



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by bmw » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:33 am

His approval rating the day he took office was 44.3. Today? 44.3.

If Trump wins and the House stays in the hands of Democrats, get ready for 4 years of dysfunction like Washington DC has never seen before. Trump will go back to signing executive orders to get things done.



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:36 am

I continue to believe Biden will NOT be the Dem nominee.

He's an old has-been who's stumbled too many times on the campaign trail during prior Presidential candidacies. He's incapable of creating as much enthusiasm among young progressive voters than other candidates who are running.



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by bmw » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:33 pm

So who do you think it will be? There's basically 4 tiers of candidates right now:

Tier 1
-Biden

Tier 2
-Warren
-Bernie

Tier 3
-Buttigieg
-Harris
-O'Rourke

Tier 4
-Yang*
-Everybody else

I don't see there being enough support for Bernie or Warren to get it - they both cater to the extremist socialist wing of the party and they're currently splitting that vote. So unless either one drops out early, neither will get it.

As much as I hope Harris gets it because I think Trump would easily defeat her in the general, she hasn't broken through. I think realistically, the only challengers Biden has right now are Buttigieg and O'Rourke, and O'Rourke isn't polling particularly well in Texas right now. The only reason for the dems to go with him would be if they thought he could deliver the state of Texas, which I don't think he can.

So as it stands right now, I see 3 people who are viable candidates:
-Biden
-Buttigieg
-Yang*

I put Yang as a wild card here because he is just that - a wild card. He isn't polling well in traditional polls but he has a ton of followers online and on betting sites, he's actually ranked in the same tier as Buttigieg, Harris, and O'Rourke



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:37 pm

No Cory Booker?

I think either someone from the "everyone else" column, Sanders or Warren will be the nominee.

If I were to make a guess today, I'd say Warren (same pick I made a year ago). She is just far enough left to appeal to young progressives but is tenured enough to appeal to the establishment. Being a white female not named Hillary helps, too.



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by bmw » Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:58 pm

Booker is polling in low single digits. A while back I thought he might have a chance but his name has been out there a while now and he has moved nowhere in the polls.

As to Warren - you can take to the bank that she won't be the nominee. IF (and that is a big IF) Biden's supporters abandon him and go for somebody else, it will be for O'Rourke or Buttigieg. Biden voters are not the extremists within the party so I don't see them switching to Warren or Bernie.

btw I'm not yet convinced that Biden is toast. If I were handicapping this today, I would put odds as follows:

50% Biden
25% Buttigieg
10% O'Rourke
5% Yang
10% Other



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:53 am

Buttigieg's resume is much lighter than that of Obama or even (gasp)...Sarah Palin.

I simply cannot see the mayor of tiny South Bend, IN becoming a major party's Presidential nominee. Someone else will emerge and steal his momentum.



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by hanson » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:26 pm

hanson wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:13 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:16 pm
hanson wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:56 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:25 am
hanson wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:05 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:39 am
hanson wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:53 pm
lovinlife101 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:14 am
The dude has no concept of consent. SUE HIM ALL THE WAY TO HELL!!!
You really need to get a life.
I have a nice one, full of glorious consent!

Consent in the bathtub, consent on the ceiling, consent in the club, consent in outer space!!!
Like I said you really need to get a life.
Maybe I should get *another* one! My current one is overflowing with CONSENT!!!
You seem to have a consent fettish
You think? I just enjoy not forcing people to do what they don’t want to do. It’s the exact opposite of what cops do.
I thought we were talking about Biden you need to learn to stay on topic
bite me



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by TC Talks » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:05 am

audiophile wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:59 pm
I had some respect for Biden. But his flip this week proves he is not his own man.
you were getting ready to vote for him, were you?

Honestly, Republicans have nothing to say about any of the democratic candidates. Who cares about your opinion after you have voted for and endorsed Trump?


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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by bmw » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:49 am

TC Talks wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:05 am
Who cares about your opinion after you have voted for and endorsed Trump?
Ummmm....I'm pretty sure that Trump WON. It is usually the losers' opinion who nobody cares about.



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by screen glare » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:27 am

Joe Biden is yesteryear. Too much cosmetic surgery. Too frail in his body, and muddled in his well-meaning mind.

He’s a good guy. And a great American. However, his many personal tragedies going way back - while rendering him highly empathetic - have left him deeply exhausted - both heart and soul.

Time for a younger patriot and freedom fighter to eviscerate the lawless, reckless and dangerous, vapid Trump presidency.

I’m looking for a candidate who has put self in harm’s way for this country, has leadership experience, an amassed knowledge of world history, American history, science, languages, math, money - especially budgets, has respect for others, is respected,
knows a friend from a foe, does not lie with alacrity, is not mentally ill, appreciates the arts, does not relish harming the weak - especially children, and is cheered when visiting London - not reviled and denounced by thousands of protesters in the streets. Someone of whom America can be proud and grateful.

And it would be a plus if said candidate knew what it felt like to be bullied, and had learned how conquer those tough-talking cowards.



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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by audiophile » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:17 am

TC Talks wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:05 am
audiophile wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:59 pm
I had some respect for Biden. But his flip this week proves he is not his own man.
you were getting ready to vote for him, were you?

Honestly, Republicans have nothing to say about any of the democratic candidates. Who cares about your opinion after you have voted for and endorsed Trump?
I didn't vote for Trump, nor have I made any endorsements.

Furthermore I had respect for Biden and if he won the presidency I wouldn't have lost any sleep.

Not so sure about it now. Your abortion position is one way to peer into your heart.


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Re: Biden's Done...

Post by bmw » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:36 am

My question is, if Biden is the moderate Democrat he once portrayed himself to be, WHY IS he afraid to just stand on his political beliefs? I have to conclude that either (A) he is afraid of the backlash from the far left wing of his party, or (B) he never really had any firm beliefs to begin with. Either case would make him an ineffective leader.



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