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Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 091565002/
Parents certainly have a significant role to play in a child's education, but so do teachers. Perhaps we should look at the teachers that are not capable of getting students who do not have disabilities that would qualify for an exemption to achieve the minimum standards. Of course, the MEA is diametrically opposed to accountability for teachers, and it has Whitmer in it's back pocket.
Parents certainly have a significant role to play in a child's education, but so do teachers. Perhaps we should look at the teachers that are not capable of getting students who do not have disabilities that would qualify for an exemption to achieve the minimum standards. Of course, the MEA is diametrically opposed to accountability for teachers, and it has Whitmer in it's back pocket.
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Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
If taken to its logical conclusion the law is terrible... you could potentially be mixing 3rd and 5th or 6th grade age students together in the same classroom. Holding them back over one area of deficiency is asinine and that particular age mix would simply be unworkable in large numbers. Whoever thought that up was clearly thinking of adults that simply go in unchanged for decades after 18 and not the changing by the year adolescent population...Matt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:39 pmhttps://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 091565002/
Parents certainly have a significant role to play in a child's education, but so do teachers. Perhaps we should look at the teachers that are not capable of getting students who do not have disabilities that would qualify for an exemption to achieve the minimum standards. Of course, the MEA is diametrically opposed to accountability for teachers, and it has Whitmer in it's back pocket.
Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
If Gretchen doesn’t care about education than take the money for schools and put it for the roads problem solved.
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This is a horrible law and needs to be overturned. Penalizing kids for the failure of teachers and parents is borderline criminal.
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Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
I am not supporting the law BUT the one area of deficiency that is most important is reading. Its the cornerstone for everything else.
I have mixed feelings and see this as a very gray area.
Holding a kid back has a stigma no doubt. But is it worse than moving kids on when they can't keep up? There is a stigma either way. By the time you hit middle school and you realize you aren't one of the smart ones it can go downhill in a hurry.
If a kid is behind in reading after 4 years in school whats going to change that? If there is some "plan" to get a kid caught up going forward why not implement that plan in kindergarten-1-2 so there isn't a 3rd grade problem?
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Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
What do you call sending a kid forward who can't keep up?Radio Sucks wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:04 amThis is a horrible law and needs to be overturned. Penalizing kids for the failure of teachers and parents is borderline criminal.
I'm not defending the law but it ain't that black and white.
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Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
The reason kids today have trouble reading is that teachers are too busy preparing kids to take tests instead of basics.
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They can’t read but they all have IPones, Go figure! Mom and Dad even buy the phone for 5 year olds, They can’t read but they have the smarts to operate a cellphone, What is really wrong with that picture?
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Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
Shows how smart the kid must be if they can operate technology better than their parents at age 5, when teaching reading doesn’t begin until 6.
Unless that example was hyperbole.
Unless that example was hyperbole.
Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
That's even worse. Where's the intervention that works with his, even through the summer, to make sure they can keep up? That's the only answer...Someone with a very scary avatar wrote:What do you call sending a kid forward who can't keep up?
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I told you about 40% of Michiganders and Michigeese are functionally illiterate (how is that Whitmer's fault ? Oh,right,you're Republicans,so anything a Democratic Governor or President does is wrong ),but instead of owning it and perhaps doing something to fix it (like not falling for the stupid "tax cuts" mantra),you used ad hominem attacks to criticize me. I'm just a Canadian lad,but you people live in the Mitten State .I'd think you'd want to rectify its shortcomings .
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The state legislature passed a law, signed by the previous governor to hold kids who were not reading at the proper level back in third grade. The current governor wants that law overturned with no real solution suggested. We're not blaming Whitmer for people being illiterate, but she called the new law destructive, while many believe passing the kids up to the next grade without having the tools to be successful is perhaps more destructive than a grade promotion participation trophy.borderboy653659200 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:23 pmI told you about 40% of Michiganders and Michigeese are functionally illiterate (how is that Whitmer's fault ? Oh,right,you're Republicans,so anything a Democratic Governor or President does is wrong ),but instead of owning it and perhaps doing something to fix it (like not falling for the stupid "tax cuts" mantra),you used ad hominem attacks to criticize me. I'm just a Canadian lad,but you people live in the Mitten State .I'd think you'd want to rectify its shortcomings .
Voting for Trump is dumber than playing Russian Roulette with fully loaded chambers.
Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
THISMatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:35 pmThe state legislature passed a law, signed by the previous governor to hold kids who were not reading at the proper level back in third grade. The current governor wants that law overturned with no real solution suggested. We're not blaming Whitmer for people being illiterate, but she called the new law destructive, while many believe passing the kids up to the next grade without having the tools to be successful is perhaps more destructive than a grade promotion participation trophy.borderboy653659200 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:23 pmI told you about 40% of Michiganders and Michigeese are functionally illiterate (how is that Whitmer's fault ? Oh,right,you're Republicans,so anything a Democratic Governor or President does is wrong ),but instead of owning it and perhaps doing something to fix it (like not falling for the stupid "tax cuts" mantra),you used ad hominem attacks to criticize me. I'm just a Canadian lad,but you people live in the Mitten State .I'd think you'd want to rectify its shortcomings .
New York and Chicago were all in with respect to their sanctuary status — until they were hit with the challenge of actually providing sanctuary. In other words, typical liberal hypocrisy.
Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
So how long do you hold them back? Just a year? Maybe 2 or 3? It’s a slippery slope. That’s the dangerous part... I’m actually shocked there isn’t more outrage about what a newly hormonal 10 or 11 year old might try to do with a 9 year old...Matt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:35 pmThe state legislature passed a law, signed by the previous governor to hold kids who were not reading at the proper level back in third grade. The current governor wants that law overturned with no real solution suggested. We're not blaming Whitmer for people being illiterate, but she called the new law destructive, while many believe passing the kids up to the next grade without having the tools to be successful is perhaps more destructive than a grade promotion participation trophy.borderboy653659200 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:23 pmI told you about 40% of Michiganders and Michigeese are functionally illiterate (how is that Whitmer's fault ? Oh,right,you're Republicans,so anything a Democratic Governor or President does is wrong ),but instead of owning it and perhaps doing something to fix it (like not falling for the stupid "tax cuts" mantra),you used ad hominem attacks to criticize me. I'm just a Canadian lad,but you people live in the Mitten State .I'd think you'd want to rectify its shortcomings .
Re: Who cares if you can't read after third grade? Not Gretcholm...
This is a ridiculous argument. "If you can't read, you definitely are going to commit sexual assault". You seriously don't believe that nonsense, do you???NS8401 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:15 pmSo how long do you hold them back? Just a year? Maybe 2 or 3? It’s a slippery slope. That’s the dangerous part... I’m actually shocked there isn’t more outrage about what a newly hormonal 10 or 11 year old might try to do with a 9 year old...Matt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:35 pmThe state legislature passed a law, signed by the previous governor to hold kids who were not reading at the proper level back in third grade. The current governor wants that law overturned with no real solution suggested. We're not blaming Whitmer for people being illiterate, but she called the new law destructive, while many believe passing the kids up to the next grade without having the tools to be successful is perhaps more destructive than a grade promotion participation trophy.borderboy653659200 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:23 pmI told you about 40% of Michiganders and Michigeese are functionally illiterate (how is that Whitmer's fault ? Oh,right,you're Republicans,so anything a Democratic Governor or President does is wrong ),but instead of owning it and perhaps doing something to fix it (like not falling for the stupid "tax cuts" mantra),you used ad hominem attacks to criticize me. I'm just a Canadian lad,but you people live in the Mitten State .I'd think you'd want to rectify its shortcomings .
https://mea.org/learn-whats-in-the-new- ... ading-law/
Another worry educators have expressed—that children might be retained in third grade multiple times until they are able to pass the state test—were addressed in the law’s final form. Students would not repeat third grade more than once.
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