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Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

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Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by bmw » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:16 pm

I don't see it ending anytime soon. Democrats are just now taking over the House and their first act of business certainly will NOT be providing so much as a penny of funding for a wall. Trump has dug his heels in and knows that his base will abandon him if he caves.

So we have a showdown, and I don't see either side blinking before the end of January.

In the end I think House democrats cave and give at least some money for something resembling a wall (probably in the neighborhood of $2 to $2.5 billion) and I think that comes in mid-February.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Mega Hertz » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:57 pm

I don't care if there's child raping and mom killing in the streets. I'm a right winger and I wanna gloat that we won. Doesn't matter how abhorrent the end result is. We won, libs!


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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:14 pm

Meanwhile, E-Verify system services have shut down...

https://www.e-verify.gov/

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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by bmw » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:48 pm

"shut down" and "not actively managed" are 2 entirely different things.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by TC Talks » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:08 pm

Wait till the trumptards discover how a government shutdown impacts them. Then he will back down...


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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by bmw » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:27 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:08 pm
Wait till the trumptards discover how a government shutdown impacts them. Then he will back down...
And in what way is that exactly? The best the leftist media can come up with so far is that the national parks have no rangers and thus are getting dirty.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:28 pm

Just so we're clear, from the website:

Due to the lapse in federal funding, this website will not be actively managed. More info.
E- Verify and E-Verify services are unavailable. More info.

E-Verify AND E-Verify SERVICES ARE UNAVAILABLE
E-Verify and E-Verify services are currently unavailable due to a lapse in government appropriations.

E-Verify Accounts Inaccessible
While E-Verify is unavailable, employers will not be able to access their E-Verify accounts to:

Enroll in E-Verify;
Create an E-Verify case;

View or take action on any case;
Add, delete or edit any user account;
Reset passwords;
Edit company information;
Terminate accounts; and
Run reports.
Also, employees will be unable to resolve E-Verify Tentative Nonconfirmations (TNCs).

E-Verify Policies Implemented to Minimize Impact
We understand that E-Verify’s unavailability may have a significant impact on employer operations. To minimize the burden on both employers and employees, the following policies have been implemented:

The “three-day rule” for creating E-Verify cases is suspended for cases affected by the unavailability of E-Verify.
The time period during which employees may resolve TNCs will be extended. The number of days E-Verify is not available will not count toward the days the employee has to begin the process of resolving their TNCs.
We will provide additional guidance regarding “three-day rule” and time period to resolve TNCs deadlines once operations resume.
Employers may not take adverse action against an employee because the E-Verify case is in an interim case status, including while the employee’s case is in an extended interim case status due to the unavailability of E-Verify.
Federal contractors with the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) E-Verify clause should contact their contracting officer to inquire about extending federal contractor deadlines.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by TC Talks » Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:57 pm

bmw wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:27 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:08 pm
Wait till the trumptards discover how a government shutdown impacts them. Then he will back down...
And in what way is that exactly? The best the leftist media can come up with so far is that the national parks have no rangers and thus are getting dirty.
Well, stop orders have reached almost every government contractor by now. They will lay off their laborers immediately. Here in Traverse City, the Coast Guard is being forced to work without pay and people are donating money to help them buy groceries. Anything that requires permitting will be on hold. I assure you that there are many Trump voters who suck off the teat of the government and will be impacted soon.


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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by screen glare » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:57 am

Human waste overflowing on to America’s pristine and beautiful national parks is a SYMBOL of Trump’s disdain and disrespect for our public lands and treasured landmarks. You know - “drill baby, drill”. No land set aside for all to enjoy when there’s a way to make an industrial buck off same. Mine, strip, cut, drill, defile with chemicals. Unbridled greed - the Trump Creed - now symbolized in photos of our filthy national parks. Not to mention all the rangers told to stay home. And not being paid.
Shameful.

Make America Great Again means Make America the Butt of a Sick International Joke. The world is laughing at our stupidity in ever electing him. General Mattis knows it. John McCain knew it. And every shocked world leader is either crying, or licking his/her chops with glee.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by craig11152 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:19 am

We are still 2 days short of the Obama 16 day shutdown and 7 days short of the Clinton 21 day shutdown.
I can't remember the level of liberal outrage back then. Can somebody refresh me?


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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Radio Sucks » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:59 pm

“Level of Liberal Outrage” - I don’t see any outrage... I see a lot of people, both sides of the ball, thinking that this is a total waste of resources and energy. I see a few people, mostly conservatives, thinking that this is their leverage point to win votes in 2020. I see a Democrat House trying to figure out how to handle this better than their opposites did under Clinton and Obama. But more than anything else, I see the continuous never ending election cycle at it’s peak. And it disgusts me. Best excuse for term limits I’ve seen...



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Bryce » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:10 pm

T Rump can't win here. If he tries to be a statesman and makes a deal for anything less than the 5, the media and left will trumpet the fact that "he caved" and they won.

He has to hold. Its the only way he can win.


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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Deleted User 8570 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:37 pm

Bryce wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:10 pm
T Rump can't win here. If he tries to be a statesman and makes a deal for anything less than the 5, the media and left will trumpet the fact that "he caved" and they won.

He has to hold. Its the only way he can win.
He folds like a cheap suit every time...



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by Deleted User 14888 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:35 am

screen glare wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:57 am
Human waste overflowing on to America’s pristine and beautiful national parks is a SYMBOL of Trump’s disdain and disrespect for our public lands and treasured landmarks. You know - “drill baby, drill”. No land set aside for all to enjoy when there’s a way to make an industrial buck off same. Mine, strip, cut, drill, defile with chemicals. Unbridled greed - the Trump Creed - now symbolized in photos of our filthy national parks. Not to mention all the rangers told to stay home. And not being paid.
Shameful.

Make America Great Again means Make America the Butt of a Sick International Joke. The world is laughing at our stupidity in ever electing him. General Mattis knows it. John McCain knew it. And every shocked world leader is either crying, or licking his/her chops with glee.
Really, Human waste in National Parks, Who the hell is pooping in the National Parks, Just who the hell writes this stuff? Fake News at its best must be The PBS Newshour.



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Re: Predictions on how and when the shutdown ends

Post by lovinlife101 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:38 am

Oldies 84 wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:35 am
screen glare wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:57 am
Human waste overflowing on to America’s pristine and beautiful national parks is a SYMBOL of Trump’s disdain and disrespect for our public lands and treasured landmarks. You know - “drill baby, drill”. No land set aside for all to enjoy when there’s a way to make an industrial buck off same. Mine, strip, cut, drill, defile with chemicals. Unbridled greed - the Trump Creed - now symbolized in photos of our filthy national parks. Not to mention all the rangers told to stay home. And not being paid.
Shameful.

Make America Great Again means Make America the Butt of a Sick International Joke. The world is laughing at our stupidity in ever electing him. General Mattis knows it. John McCain knew it. And every shocked world leader is either crying, or licking his/her chops with glee.
Really, Human waste in National Parks, Who the hell is pooping in the National Parks, Just who the hell writes this stuff? Fake News at its best must be The PBS Newshour.
Anytime I’ve ever gone to a national park, it’s trashed. You know what’s never trashed? Private parks! Oh, and I have to pay to go to a national park and a private park. At least I don’t have to pay during the “shutdown.”

Drive by any public park in Detroit and you find broken basketball rims, used condoms, syringes, and the like. Since it belongs to everyone, it belongs to no one.



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