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Being pro-police

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Re: Being pro-police

Post by NS8401 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:03 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:"Mom, the police are bad guys. They killed him, and he's never coming back."

Those are words from a four year old girl to her mother after police assassinated her mother's boyfriend.
You having fun yet?



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:32 pm

Nope. It's not fun at all. You'd think media types would be critical of cops rather than celebrating them.



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by craig11152 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:41 pm

yet statistically a cop is 4.5 times more likely to be gunned down by a citizen than an African American is of getting shot to death by police. 4.5 times more likely. That was last year. Half way through this year the pace is about the same.


Finally, he switched to a bone saw to finish the job, and at 9:17 p.m., Mountain time, the head of the greatest hitter who ever lived had been sliced off.

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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 4:50 pm

That may be the most asinine thing I have ever read. Not sure where you're getting the 4.5 number from. Well, I have a good idea of where you pulled it out from, but it's not where the sunshine hits.

If cops were killed at a rate of 4.5 times the amount of times cops killed black people, there wouldn't be many cops left.



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by JackAttack FM » Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:25 pm

I'd be interested in where that comes from too.

It came out two years ago that blacks are 4.5 times more likely to get shot by a cop then any other race.

And the CDC releaed numbers from 2013 FBI crime stats that showed 4.5 out of every 100,000 cops were shot and killed on duty.

From what I saw from the latest Minnesota shooting, that cop should be charged for open murder.



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by DAC » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:25 pm

The source for that info would be interesting to digest. BUT, and it's a very big but, I have not heard ANYONE, whether on this forum or in the media of any form (Donald Trump is excluded for obvious reasons) who has come out in favor of the cop in the Minnesota incident, Bill Harris included. Have you? Has anyone? If there is video of legit print evidence, let's see it! Then we can flame whoever it is who condones what happened. Until then, this is just another of Needs A Life 101's "missions" in his life, which - noble as they may be - are not in the right place here. As usual.

So, in the interest of fairness and objectivity, check this out. Is it bad for people to be against this type of thing, or is this another case of being "pro-police"? Is there only one side of each of your missions, LL?

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Protes ... 84431.html



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by craig11152 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:41 am

Sorry for the delay I was going to post last night but I had an unexpected visit from 3 grand kids.
The stats I sited were numbers I came up with from my own research yesterday
My numbers as follows....

African American male population in America approx 22,000,000
source: http://blackdemographics.com/population/
note: I also confirmed that approximate number from census data
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African American males killed by police gunfire in 2015...... 250
source: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-i ... s-database
Note: The link has a filtering option to narrow down the search.
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Sworn police officer who carry guns approx 700,000
source:https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/c ... e_2011.xls
Note: the sworn officer approx is for cops carrying guns on the street. overal numbers that are larger include desk staff that do not come in contact with citizens on the street
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Officers killed by gunfire in 2015...35
source: https://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2015

Note: again a filtering option. The 39 listed included 4 dogs. I took the dogs out to get 35.
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Math:
22,000,000 black men in America
÷250 killed by police shooting in 2015
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88,000........One black man killed by police gun fire for every 88,000 black American men

700,000 gun carrying police in America
÷35 human police killed by gunfire in 2015
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20,000.......one cop killed for every 20,000 on duty in 2015


Finally, he switched to a bone saw to finish the job, and at 9:17 p.m., Mountain time, the head of the greatest hitter who ever lived had been sliced off.

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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:49 am

DAC, the police union has to come out in favor of the cop. He's paying them to do so. So will the attorney representing him. So once again, you show you do not understand how life works.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/07/0 ... o-castile/

And Craig, it's "cited" not "sited." "Site" is a physical location, while "cite" is to mention as an example to support an opinion or idea.

Have a great day!



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by craig11152 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:17 am

lovinlife101 wrote:And Craig, it's "cited" not "sited." "Site" is a physical location, while "cite" is to mention as an example to support an opinion or idea.

Have a great day!
Fair enough, I stand corrected. But its a bit of a nitpick considering you earlier said....
lovinlife101 wrote:That may be the most asinine thing I have ever read. Not sure where you're getting the 4.5 number from. Well, I have a good idea of where you pulled it out from, but it's not where the sunshine hits.
If cops were killed at a rate of 4.5 times the amount of times cops killed black people, there wouldn't be many cops left.
I have provided my data and my sources and all you can do is correct my grammar?

Allow me to do the last bit of math in case math isn't your strong point.
if 1 in 20,000 cops are shot dead that is 2 in 40,000, 4 in 80,000 and 4.4 in 88,000. My original 4.5 verses the 4.4 is due to some rounding of large numbers. It certainly is an approximation but its essentially accurate.


Finally, he switched to a bone saw to finish the job, and at 9:17 p.m., Mountain time, the head of the greatest hitter who ever lived had been sliced off.

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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:30 am

Nothing magical or noble happens when you give someone with government power a badge, a uniform, and a gun.

Just as much skepticism should be used for these people, who are just like us, as those who they say they are trying to protect us from.

You'd think media would understand that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/1 ... 24684.html



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by DAC » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:26 pm

Last time I checked, smarty pants, the police union and the defending attorney are not Bill Harris or any members of the media. Perhaps you should start another OT thread about being "Pro defense attorney", or about unions back their members (root word of "union" is "united"). I know how life works. There are a lot of ordinary people, and there are a lot of miserable people like yourself to challenge our spirits.



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:10 pm

Police officers aren't given halos when they're given a uniform, a badge, and a gun.

We should stop believing they are.



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:21 pm

We have got to do something about these out of control cops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVFImf1nnFY



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Re: Being pro-police

Post by Bryce » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:41 pm

lovinlife101 wrote: And Craig, it's "cited" not "sited." "Site" is a physical location, while "cite" is to mention as an example to support an opinion or idea.

Have a great day!
LOLOL :rollin

When a libtard has their ass handed to them in a debate, they always rely on a misdirect and or name calling.

At least you're consistent libtard.


There sure isn't as much excitement, fawning, or adulation over our first orange president as there was over our first black one. Evidently, orange really isn't the new black.

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Re: Being pro-police

Post by lovinlife101 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:46 pm

Too easy, Bryce. Next time, please try to make it at least a little challenging for me to respond to you.

Think about what you just wrote.

"When a libtard has their ass handed to them in a debate, they always rely on a misdirect and or name calling. At least you're consistent libtard."

By choosing to use name-calling to refer to me as a "libtard" you show that you use the technique you are trying to accuse me of.

You, my friend, are the definition of a hypocrite.

Not sure how you think using proper words for proper meaning could be construed as a "misdirect." That's unless you don't think using the correct word for the correct meaning is important. "Site" and "cite" are different words and have different meanings.

Have a nice day!



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