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Detroit/Toledo Big Three schedule for 12/10/1980

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Detroit/Toledo Big Three schedule for 12/10/1980

Post by mtburb » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:35 pm

I found in a closet in my house a well-worn Detroit News from December 10, 1980. The main story then was the death of John Lennon two days prior.

Stations listed, as shown at the top of the listings (which were on page 14B):
WJBK Channel 2 (CBS - Detroit)
WDIV Channel 4 (NBC - Detroit)
WXYZ Channel 7 (ABC (O&O) - Detroit)
CBET Channel 9 (CBC - Windsor)
WXON Channel 20 (Independent - Detroit)
WKBD Channel 50 (Independent - Detroit)
WTVS Channel 56 (PBS - Detroit)
WGPR Channel 62 (Independent - Detroit)
WTOL Channel 11 (CBS - Toledo)
WTVG Channel 13 (NBC - Toledo)
WDHO Channel 24 (ABC - Toledo)


And now the schedules of the Detroit and Toledo Big Three affiliates, starting at 7 AM. Shows are distinguished between network shows and shows the stations aired through syndication.

WJBK Channel 2 (CBS)
7 AM: Captain Kangaroo (WJBK, CBS scheduled for 8 AM)
8 AM: Morning Magazine (WJBK)
9 AM: Donahue (WJBK)
10 AM: The Jeffersons (rerun) (CBS)
10:30: The Newlywed Game (WJBK)
10:55: News (WJBK)
11 AM: The Price is Right (CBS)
12 PM: News (WJBK)
12:30: Search for Tomorrow (CBS)
1 PM: The Young and the Restless (CBS)
2 PM: As the World Turns (CBS)
3 PM: Guiding Light (CBS)
4 PM: Carol Burnett and Friends (actually The Carol Burnett Show) (WJBK)
4:30: The Rockford Files ("The Deuce") (WJBK)
5:30: News (WJBK)
6:30: CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite (CBS)
7 PM: PM Magazine (tour of the Parker Brothers factory to see how Monopoly is made) (WJBK)
7:30: Tic-Tac-Dough (WJBK)
8 PM: Enos (CBS)
9 PM: The CBS Wednesday Night Movies: Mark, I Love You (1980) (CBS)
11 PM: News (WJBK)
11:30: Maude (WJBK)
12 AM: Ironside (WJBK)
1 AM: All Mine to Give (1956) (WJBK)

WDIV Channel 4 (NBC)
7 AM: The Today Show with Tom Brokaw & Jane Pauley (NBC)
9 AM: The Richard Simmons Show (WDIV)
9:30: Bewitched (WDIV)
10 AM: The John Davidson Show (WDIV)
11 AM: Wheel of Fortune (NBC)
11:30: Password Plus (NBC)
12 PM: News (WDIV)
12:30: The Doctors (NBC)
1 PM: Days of Our Lives (NBC)
2 PM: Another World (NBC)
3 PM: Texas (NBC)
4 PM: Good Times (WDIV)
4:30: All in the Family (WDIV)
5 PM: Barney Miller (WDIV)
5:30: News (WDIV)
6:30: NBC Nightly News with John Chancellor (NBC)
7 PM: The Joker's Wild (WDIV)
7:30: Bullseye (WDIV)
8 PM: Real People (NBC)
9 PM: Diff'rent Strokes ("Little Mother") (NBC)
9:30: Go Tell It: Ben Hooks Reports (special) (WDIV)
10 PM: All in the Family (WDIV, preempted NBC's Number 96 premiere)
10:30: Barney Miller (WDIV)
11 PM: News (WDIV)
11:30: The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson (guest Jane Fonda, featured The Edge of Wetness segment, student test answer letter from school teacher was read by Johnny) (NBC)
12:30: Tomorrow Coast to Coast (NBC)
2 AM: Class (WDIV)

WXYZ Channel 7 (ABC)
7 AM: Good Morning America (ABC)
9 AM: Kelly & Company (guest Leslie-Jane Maynard) (WXYZ)
10:30: The Edge of Night (WXYZ, ABC scheduled for 4 PM)
11 AM: The Love Boat (rerun) (ABC)
12 PM: Family Feud (ABC)
12:30: Ryan's Hope (ABC)
1 PM: All My Children (ABC)
2 PM: One Life to Live (ABC)
3 PM: General Hospital (ABC)
4 PM: Harlow (1965) (WXYZ)
5:30: News (WXYZ)
7 PM: ABC's World News Tonight (WXYZ, ABC scheduled for 6:30)
7:30: The Hollywood Squares (WXYZ)
8 PM: Eight is Enough ("The Maltese Airline Bag") (ABC)
9 PM: Taxi ("Elaine's Strange Triangle") (ABC)
9:30: Soap (ABC)
10 PM: Vega$ ("Deadly Blessing") (ABC)
11 PM: News (WXYZ)
11:30: ABC News Nightline (ABC)
11:50: The Love Boat (WXYZ)
2:10: Namu the Killer Whale (1966) (WXYZ)

WTOL Channel 11 (CBS)
7 AM: Morning with Charles Kuralt (CBS)
8 AM: Captain Kangaroo (CBS)
9 AM: To Tell the Truth (WTOL)
9:30: One Day at a Time (rerun) (WTOL, CBS scheduled for 4 PM)
10 AM: The Jeffersons (rerun) (CBS)
10:30: Alice (WTOL)
11 AM: The Price is Right (CBS)
12 PM: News (WTOL)
12:30: Search for Tomorrow (CBS)
1 PM: The Young and the Restless (CBS)
2 PM: As the World Turns (CBS)
3 PM: Guiding Light (CBS)
4 PM: Barefoot in the Park (1967) (WTOL)
6 PM: News (WTOL)
6:30: CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite (CBS)
7 PM: PM Magazine (tour of the Parker Brothers factory to see how Monopoly is made) (WTOL)
7:30: Match Game PM (WTOL)
8 PM: Billy Graham (special) (WTOL)
9 PM: The CBS Wednesday Night Movies: Mark, I Love You (1980) (CBS)
11 PM: News (WTOL)
11:30: The CBS Late Movie: Death of Her Innocence (1974) (CBS)

WTVG Channel 13 (NBC)
7 AM: The Today Show with Tom Brokaw & Jane Pauley (NBC)
9 AM: Donahue (WTVG)
10 AM: Las Vegas Gambit (NBC)
10:30: Blockbusters (NBC)
11 AM: Wheel of Fortune (NBC)
11:30: Password Plus (NBC)
12 PM: News (WTVG)
12:30: The Doctors (NBC)
1 PM: Days of Our Lives (NBC)
2 PM: Another World (NBC)
3 PM: Texas (NBC)
4 PM: The Rockford Files (WTVG)
5 PM: Barney Miller (WTVG)
5:30: M*A*S*H (featuring Toledo's own Jamie Farr as Klinger) (WTVG)
6 PM: News (WTVG)
6:30: NBC Nightly News with John Chancellor (NBC)
7 PM: Happy Days Again (actually Happy Days) (WTVG)
7:30: Tic-Tac-Dough (WTVG)
8 PM: Real People (NBC)
9 PM: Diff'rent Strokes ("Little Mother") (NBC)
9:30: The Facts of Life ("Double Standard") (NBC)
10 PM: Number 96 (premiere) (NBC)
11 PM: News (WTVG)
11:30: The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson (guest Jane Fonda, featured The Edge of Wetness segment, student test answer letter from school teacher was read by Johnny) (NBC)
12:30: Tomorrow Coast to Coast (NBC)

WDHO Channel 24 (ABC)
7 AM: Good Morning America (ABC)
9 AM: The Edge of Night (WDHO, ABC scheduled for 4 PM)
9:30 All in the Family (WDHO)
10 AM: AM Magazine (WDHO)
10:30: The Bob Newhart Show (WDHO)
11 AM: The Love Boat (rerun) (ABC)
12 PM: Family Feud (ABC)
12:30: Ryan's Hope (ABC)
1 PM: All My Children (ABC)
2 PM: One Life to Live (ABC)
3 PM: General Hospital (ABC)
4 PM: Tom & Jerry (WDHO)
4:30: The Flintstones (WDHO)
5 PM: Welcome Back Kotter (WDHO)
5:30: News (WDHO)
6 PM: ABC's World News Tonight (WDHO, ABC scheduled for 6:30)
6:30: Carol Burnett and Friends (actually The Carol Burnett Show) (WDHO)
7 PM: The Joker's Wild (WDHO)
7:30: The Benny Hill Show (WDHO)
8 PM: Condominium (special) (WDHO)
10 PM: Vega$ ("Deadly Blessing") (ABC)
11 PM: News (WDHO)
11:30: ABC News Nightline (ABC)
11:55: Carol Burnett and Friends (actually The Carol Burnett Show) (WDHO)
12:25: Sanford & Son (WDHO)

Even though WDIV preempted the Number 96 premiere that night, their logo still appeared in a Number 96 ad at the bottom of page 14B.
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Re: Detroit/Toledo Big Three schedule for 12/10/1980

Post by sfpcc » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:46 pm

Bewitched 9;30 AM WDIV

The next month Bewitched moved to an earlier time, I think around 6:00am. I remember watching it they day Reagan was elected and the Iranian Hostages were released, (1/20/1981.) The was a Yortzeit candle, (Jewish Memorial) flickering in our kitchen it was kind of freaky, (my grandfather died the year before.) later that day WXON showed the first episode of Batman, (Hi Diddle Diddle.) Those were strange times back in the early 80's.



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Re: Detroit/Toledo Big Three schedule for 12/10/1980

Post by rugratsonline » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:32 pm

mtburb wrote:4 PM: Carol Burnett and Friends (actually The Carol Burnett Show) (WJBK)
I believe it was the first year of the show, a showcase of sketches from "The Carol Burnett Show", on WJBK - up until the previous season, it was seen in Detroit on CBET.
mtburb wrote:10 PM: All in the Family (WDIV, preempted NBC's Number 96 premiere)
Did WDIV ever air "Number 96"? If not, it was no big loss, especially as hardly anyone watched, and was soon cancelled. NBC, however, counted on the show to be successful, especially as it debuted over three consecutive nights. (I would bet WDIV pre-empted them all.) NBC used the notoriety of the original version from Australia, which had nudity and some sexual content, by saying that that series was banned in Australia (owing to looser broadcasting standards in prime-time, it wasn't), though the NBC version was much, much more tamer.

More on the original Number 96: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_96_%28TV_series%29
mtburb wrote:11:50: The Love Boat (WXYZ)
This was actually part of "ABC Late Night", which showed reruns and movies in late-night.
mtburb wrote:7 AM: Morning with Charles Kuralt (CBS)
When "Sunday Morning" began in 1979, it was part of CBS's morning show overhaul that also included "Monday Morning", "Tuesday Morning", etc. By 1980, the weekday versions were simply called "Morning", and by 1981, they once again were known as the "CBS Morning News".
mtburb wrote:8 PM: Condominium (special) (WDHO)
An "Operation Prime-Time" mini-series, which bumped network programming over several nights on stations that were network affiliates.
mtburb wrote:11:55: Carol Burnett and Friends (actually The Carol Burnett Show) (WDHO)
12:25: Sanford & Son (WDHO)
So, did 24 go off-the-air after Sanford? Odd for any network affiliate to sign off before 1AM, even if it's 5 minutes before 1AM.

Also, do you have the schedules for the indies and CBET?



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Post by sfpcc » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:10 pm

Until Hill Street Blues and Cheers came along a coule of years later NBC was kind of lost. Al Franken used to make light of this on SNL, (A Letter To The Lamo / Fred Silverman.)
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Post by WOHO » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:01 am

rugrats, I think WDHO did play the Star Spangled Banner at 1AM and announce their STL call letters and their 1MW of aural and video power, IIRC.
That being said, I don't remember Benny Hill ever being on WDHO- I always remember watching it from the Detroit stations on Buckeye Cable.



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Post by Some Guy from Toledo » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:34 pm

WOHO wrote:That being said, I don't remember Benny Hill ever being on WDHO- I always remember watching it from the Detroit stations on Buckeye Cable.
I do too (though I think WUPW 36 would also air it after they signed on in '85). Nice to think another station in town took a gamble on that



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Post by sfpcc » Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:20 am

I've never heard of Benny Hill being aired during a daytime slot, (too many women losing their clothes.)
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Post by rugratsonline » Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:34 am

mtburb wrote: WDHO Channel 24 (ABC)
7:30: The Benny Hill Show (WDHO)
sfpcc wrote:I've never heard of Benny Hill being aired during a daytime slot, (to many women losing their clothes.)
In the Tampa Bay area around this time, WTVT showed Benny Hill Saturday nights at 7:30PM, right after Dance Fever and before CBS's Saturday Night line-up (which by 1981 would be fronted by "Walt Disney" at 8PM).



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Post by Some Guy from Toledo » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:45 pm

rugratsonline wrote:
mtburb wrote: WDHO Channel 24 (ABC)
7:30: The Benny Hill Show (WDHO)
sfpcc wrote:I've never heard of Benny Hill being aired during a daytime slot, (to many women losing their clothes.)
In the Tampa Bay area around this time, WTVT showed Benny Hill Saturday nights at 7:30PM, right after Dance Fever and before CBS's Saturday Night line-up (which by 1981 would be fronted by "Walt Disney" at 8PM).
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Post by JackAttack FM » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:24 pm

sfpcc wrote:Until Hill Street Blues and Cheers came along a coule of years later NBC was kind of lost. Al Franken used to make light of this on SNL, (A Letter To The Lamo / Fred Silverman.)
Oh geez, yeah, 1979 and '80 were kinda the depth of the valley for NBC then. They were Infamously bad in primetime at the time. ABC and CBS were mopping the floor with them.
Little House on the Prarie and maybe CHiPs were basically keeping NBC afloat.
Because when Real People and Diff'rent Strokes are your only other top 30 shows you should know you have a problem.



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Post by sfpcc » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:29 pm

That era also gave us Here's Boomer, Super Train, and Pink Lady And Jeff.



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Post by mtburb » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:55 pm

And don't forget that when Carter announced that we weren't sending anyone to the Moscow Summer Olympics, NBC came extremely close to following the exact same path Dumont followed just 24 years earlier.


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Post by JackAttack FM » Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:52 pm

mtburb wrote:...NBC came extremely close to following the exact same path Dumont followed just 24 years earlier.
And you got this from where???
Because that would be the furthest thing from reality.

There would be a long list of buyers for a network like NBC in 1980, who could have got it for a discount from RCA because of its lagging primetime. Potential buyers then could have included movie studios like Paramount (Gulf+Western), Universal (MCA) or Fox, conglomerates like GE, AT&T or ITT or a major advertiser like Protor & Gamble, Coca-Cola, GM or Dow. Even major station group owners like a Westinghouse or Metromedia could have been bidders.

The network would have been sold long before being shut-down. Its brand and the audiance reach with its line-up of stations would have far outvalued any ratings decline and have been of value to anyone of the possible buyers I listed.

The comparison between NBC of 1980 and DuMont of 1956 couldn't be further apart.



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Post by sfpcc » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:45 pm

www.dumontnetwork.com

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Post by rugratsonline » Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:26 am

JackAttack FM wrote:There would be a long list of buyers for a network like NBC in 1980, who could have got it for a discount from RCA because of its lagging primetime. Potential buyers then could have included movie studios like Paramount (Gulf+Western), Universal (MCA) or Fox, conglomerates like GE, AT&T or ITT or a major advertiser like Protor & Gamble, Coca-Cola, GM or Dow. Even major station group owners like a Westinghouse or Metromedia could have been bidders.
Eventually, GE would get NBC by the mid-1980s, following its acquisition of RCA.

Paramount, Universal and Fox would have also eventually entered the broadcasting field themselves -- Paramount, with UPN (1995-2006); Universal, initially with WWOR from around 1987-1991, before merging with NBC in the 2000s; and Fox, which many of you already know the story of.

As for Westinghouse and Metromedia, there could have been some FCC-mandated selloffs in many markets, due to regulations regarding station ownership at the time. In the case of Metromedia, the selloffs would be in New York City (WNEW and WNBC), Los Angeles (KTTV and KNBC) and Washington (WTTG and WRC). For Group W, the only example I could think of off-hand was in Baltimore, where they owned WJZ, and that's only because it was in close proximity with WRC in Washington. These examples are only for the period around 1980 -- by 1983, Metromedia would acquire WFLD Chicago, where NBC has its O&O, WMAQ.

As for ITT -- they tried to acquire ABC during the 1970s, but failed in doing so.

As for AT&T -- considering the regulations at the time, I do not think the FCC would have permitted Ma Bell to own a network, especially as many networks at the time used its coaxial cable network to transmit from city to city.



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