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Unusual DX for me.

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Unusual DX for me.

Post by Radiobingoking » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:11 am

This past Sunday (12/29/2019) evening about 9:30pm I was at the Walpole Island dock and was able to listen to the Red Wings on 1110AM. From what I can find the only Wings affiliate on that frequency is WJML. Is it possible for 10 watts to make it that far to the southeast from Petoskey? The signal faded before we reached the Algonac dock.


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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by CK-722 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:13 am

WJML has been heard in SE Michigan before Sunset since they went on the air in 1966 with 10000 watts. But I doubt you would hear it on their PSSA with 10 watts.


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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by Radiobingoking » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:02 pm

Thank you for your response, CK-722. It seems odd to me, too, because the only large body of water in line was Lake Huron. But it definitely was the Wings game I heard. The only other unusual DX was one time back in the 80's I heard WPIE 1160 in Trumansburg, NY in Livonia with their night power of 310 watts.


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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by mars » Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:49 pm

Back when people were doing this, I used to get reports from South Ill. on our AM-580 station as well as many from Finland, all always at our night time power of 500 watts. Never of our 50k daytime power. Now days the internet has done away with most of the hobby.



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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by CK-722 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:00 pm

WTCM actually radiated more toward Southern Illinois when they were 800 watts Night than they do now. Can't remember what the previous 500 watt Night pattern was like or if I even had it in a Database. Probably like the 800 watt pattern. Click "Display Pattern Of Directional Antenna" on the 0.8 kW Night facility at this link. The file number is "BL-19960904AA".

https://www.fccdata.org/?lang=en&appid= ... acid=70524

Before pattern change, WTCM at 50 kW goes very well to the South during Critical Hours, usually right before Sunset. I heard it driving through Toledo right before pattern change on the car radio once. Then I heard CKWW playing "Walking In The Rain" by Glodean White and The Love Unlimited Orchestra after WTCM changed.

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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by Radiobingoking » Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:04 pm

Speaking of WTCM I have heard it several times in the early morning on I-696 between the 96/275 junction and Orchard Lake Road. I suspect that is a null on CKWW's pattern.


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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by organman95 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:15 am

It's interest how that works in regards to signal strength and distance. I remember occasionally getting 1210 AM WQLS (Montgomery, AL) on clear nights up in Cheboygan in the '90s. Seems like too far of a distance, considering there are other stations on the 1210 frequency north of Montgomery.



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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by CK-722 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:05 pm

organman95 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:15 am
It's interest how that works in regards to signal strength and distance. I remember occasionally getting 1210 AM WQLS (Montgomery, AL) on clear nights up in Cheboygan in the '90s. Seems like too far of a distance, considering there are other stations on the 1210 frequency north of Montgomery.


There are ion clouds that reflect signals according to more or less optical rules (The angle of incidence=the angle of reflection.). A mirror in space would have a limited number of paths that it reflects. The ion clouds act in a similar way, often favoring far signals over near.

In researching this answer, it revealed that WQLS is now WTXK.


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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by Radiobingoking » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:24 pm

I know what you mean. Back in the day when WQTE (now WRDT) signed off I never knew what the night signal would be in Detroit. Depending on the day it could be WIND (Chicago), WJLS (Beckley, WV), WIS (now WVOC in Columbia, SC), WQAM in Miami or even CJKL in Kirkland Lake, ON.


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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by organman95 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:52 pm

CK-722 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:05 pm
There are ion clouds that reflect signals according to more or less optical rules (The angle of incidence=the angle of reflection.). A mirror in space would have a limited number of paths that it reflects. The ion clouds act in a similar way, often favoring far signals over near.

In researching this answer, it revealed that WQLS is now WTXK.

Cool. I remember it as WQLS, didn't know there was a change.



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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by TC Talks » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:41 pm

Driving in a snow squall last night near Big Rapids using my old pickup's stock radio.

I was hitting something on every frequency:

Catches:
720 Chicago
740 Toronto
750 Atlanta
760 Detroit
1140 Richmond
860 Toronto
890 Chicago
900 Toronto
910 Detroit
1170 Wheeling
1100 Cleveland
1120 St Louis
1180 Humble TX
1190 Leesburg VA
1660 Nashville
600 Winston-Salem
770 880 New York
650 Nashville
700 Fort Wayne
810 Schenectady
840 Lexington
890 Chicago
1590 Akron
1580 Saint Johns


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Re: Unusual DX for me.

Post by WC8KCY » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:38 am

Are the highlighted listings new catches for you TC?

1180 KGOL is one I haven't logged. Well done!

750 WSB and 1140 WRVA are usually present when I do a scan.

870 WWL New Orleans, which didn't turn up on your scan, used to be a dependable nighttime catch but has been a tough pull for quite some time now.


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