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WKLT-fm, Kalkaska and WKLZ-fm, Petoskey

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WKLT-fm, Kalkaska and WKLZ-fm, Petoskey

Post by NMCSpeaks » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:41 pm

Are these stations presently proposed to be spun off by Gokey’s Northern Broadcasting to Biederman’s Midwestern Broadcasting?

Time will tell.



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Re: WKLT-fm, Kalkaska and WKLZ-fm, Petoskey

Post by MWmetalhead » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:46 pm

From an ownership cap standpoint, do KLT/KLZ count as 1 station or 2 stations?

What about 103.5 WTCM-FM / 93.5 WBCM-FM?

Per the FCC:
Local Radio Ownership
Ownership restrictions are based on a sliding scale that varies by the size of the market:

In a radio market with 45 or more stations, an entity may own up to eight radio stations, no more than five of which may be in the same service (AM or FM).

In a radio market with between 30 and 44 radio stations, an entity may own up to seven radio stations, no more than four of which may be in the same service.

In a radio market hosting between 15 and 29 radio stations, an entity may own up to six radio stations, no more than four of which may be in the same service.

In a radio market with 14 or fewer radio stations, an entity may own up to five radio stations, no more than three of which may be in the same service, as long as the entity does not own more than 50 percent of all radio stations in that market.
With the TC-Petoskey-Cadillac market now covering a massive territory, it would not shock me if the market now meets the 45+ station criterion. It's gotta be damn close to that number.


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Post by TC Talks » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:50 pm

I don't see how they fit culturally


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Re: WKLT-fm, Kalkaska and WKLZ-fm, Petoskey

Post by MWmetalhead » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:53 pm

WTCM-FM's midday personality worked at WCSX in Detroit for years.

However, I see your point. The Biederman stations exude family friendliness. KLT's stationality, on the other hand, has some testosterone-driven attitude.

On paper, country and classic rock should fit well together. Doesn't always work out that way, though.


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Post by TC Talks » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:22 pm

Carrie and I worked together on Saturdays at WCSX back then, she's great, but classy. KLT is the very used car market / vape shop crowd. I can't see MidWestern wanting it.


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Post by Radio Sucks » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:50 pm

Looking at this from a business/ratings viewpoint, this is an excellent purchase for the Midwestern folks. Right now the only local group that can provide a broad set of demographics both males and females is Black Diamond. Country has become very female focused. To really dominate the transactional business, Midwestern needs a broad demo. as for the cultural conflict leave the long-haired hippie freaks over on Hastings.



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Post by TC Talks » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:02 am

Have you ever run a group? That's complete nonsense.


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Post by organman95 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:33 am

MWmetalhead wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:53 pm
WTCM-FM's midday personality worked at WCSX in Detroit for years.

However, I see your point. The Biederman stations exude family friendliness. KLT's stationality, on the other hand, has some testosterone-driven attitude.

On paper, country and classic rock should fit well together. Doesn't always work out that way, though.
And I believe they do. Look at how Del Reynolds ran the Cheboygan stations. Back in the 90s/2000s, there was Classic Rock, Country, and "Music of Your Life" format (1240 AM), Then there was the floating Coast/Jazz - Modern Rock switch. Cheboygan and Petoskey used to be the two powerhouses of Northern MI. Now most operations of nearly every station has been moved to TC.



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Post by BigFreq » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:18 am

Again, the greed that bore the 11 county metro: Broadcasters thinking it would garner the attention of national marketing dollars (epic fail) and Nielsen looking to charge them for the survey to pretend to be more a more important than what it really is (a win for Nielsen). Any market where you have to use two (or more) signals to reach the metro is a problem unto itself, but the large clusters are committed to the simulcast way of life for fear of losing ratings, so they are stuck with defending it until they are tired of Nielsen bleeding them and eventually decide the juice isn't worth the squeeze (as MacDonald-Garber wisely did). To be honest -- if they ditched Nielsen, TCM-FM would still be a part of most out of market buys as the dominant country format, as would KHQ as a CHR. Then it would be a toss up with GFM (Rock 105) and KLT for the male rock buys. Ratings really don't mean much unless you're top three. It's about who -- and what -- you're putting out onto the streets. Local direct sales is the only way to increase topline revenue. You have to have a team of street savvy sellers, selling ideas and concepts to local merchants. The days of sitting back and raking in the cash from national/regional buys is over. McDonald's, BK, Taco Bell, Subway, Meijers, are all a fraction of what they used to be. And, in many cases, to get what's left of those pies, clusters have been leveraging multiple stations. Buy one... get two free... because they have the stations, of which most have plenty of inventory to spare; so the logis is to protect their piece of the pie by giving something they don't necessarily value -- excess inventory. Until Nielsen is no longer being paid by these companies for ratings (it takes three to tango), the current metro will exist. I do see an opportunity for Eastlan Ratings to come in and create two survey areas -- TC/Cadillac (Grand Traverse, Leelanau, Kalkaska, Wexford counties) and Petoskey/Cheboygan (Emmett, Charlevoix, Cheboygan counties). You don't need the excess counties: Benzie, Manistee, Antrim and Otsego to get an accurate snapshot for the very different Traverse City and Petoskey business communities. That's my 2.5 cents worth.



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Re: WKLT-fm, Kalkaska and WKLZ-fm, Petoskey

Post by ftballfan » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:03 am

BigFreq wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:18 am
Again, the greed that bore the 11 county metro: Broadcasters thinking it would garner the attention of national marketing dollars (epic fail) and Nielsen looking to charge them for the survey to pretend to be more a more important than what it really is (a win for Nielsen). Any market where you have to use two (or more) signals to reach the metro is a problem unto itself, but the large clusters are committed to the simulcast way of life for fear of losing ratings, so they are stuck with defending it until they are tired of Nielsen bleeding them and eventually decide the juice isn't worth the squeeze (as MacDonald-Garber wisely did). To be honest -- if they ditched Nielsen, TCM-FM would still be a part of most out of market buys as the dominant country format, as would KHQ as a CHR. Then it would be a toss up with GFM (Rock 105) and KLT for the male rock buys. Ratings really don't mean much unless you're top three. It's about who -- and what -- you're putting out onto the streets. Local direct sales is the only way to increase topline revenue. You have to have a team of street savvy sellers, selling ideas and concepts to local merchants. The days of sitting back and raking in the cash from national/regional buys is over. McDonald's, BK, Taco Bell, Subway, Meijers, are all a fraction of what they used to be. And, in many cases, to get what's left of those pies, clusters have been leveraging multiple stations. Buy one... get two free... because they have the stations, of which most have plenty of inventory to spare; so the logis is to protect their piece of the pie by giving something they don't necessarily value -- excess inventory. Until Nielsen is no longer being paid by these companies for ratings (it takes three to tango), the current metro will exist. I do see an opportunity for Eastlan Ratings to come in and create two survey areas -- TC/Cadillac (Grand Traverse, Leelanau, Kalkaska, Wexford counties) and Petoskey/Cheboygan (Emmett, Charlevoix, Cheboygan counties). You don't need the excess counties: Benzie, Manistee, Antrim and Otsego to get an accurate snapshot for the very different Traverse City and Petoskey business communities. That's my 2.5 cents worth.
Manistee County belongs more with Mason/Lake/Oceana (and WTCM-FM is probably #1 in that group of counties as well). Antrim and Benzie do fit in with Traverse City. Otsego fits in with Petoskey and Cheboygan (Gaylord is surprisingly large).

Also, I think Midwestern would have to spin one station off or pull some other shenanigans (such as changing the COL of WTCM-FM or WJZQ to an out-of-market community) to get both WKLT and WKLZ



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Re: WKLT-fm, Kalkaska and WKLZ-fm, Petoskey

Post by NMCSpeaks » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:43 am

Biederman’s Midwestern Broadcasting apparently required the purging of Gokey’s Northern Broadcasting staff BEFORE the WKLT sale moves forward (here at Christmas time).



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Re: WKLT-fm, Kalkaska and WKLZ-fm, Petoskey

Post by BigFreq » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:07 am

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Manistee County belongs more with Mason/Lake/Oceana (and WTCM-FM is probably #1 in that group of counties as well). Antrim and Benzie do fit in with Traverse City. Otsego fits in with Petoskey and Cheboygan (Gaylord is surprisingly large).

Also, I think Midwestern would have to spin one station off or pull some other shenanigans (such as changing the COL of WTCM-FM or WJZQ to an out-of-market community) to get both WKLT and WKLZ
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Manistee certainly belongs more in unision with Mason; you're right. But you don't have to necessarily fit all of the pegs into something because it once was. Gaylord essentially stands out on its own. It is a self-sustaining community and doesn't rely on any adjacent community for much of anything; outside of a trendy restaurant or a flight south.

As for Midwestern, they had room to add one FM, so it's KLT. KLZ will likely find a new home and format; along with the rest of those signals. But the diamond in the cluster was certainly KLT, which would have also had the greatest value to both the sellers and buyer. Now we will see how the rest of the dominos fall.



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Re: WKLT-fm, Kalkaska and WKLZ-fm, Petoskey

Post by ADD in TC » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:28 pm

What if Midwestern divested 93.5?Could they aquire either 94.3,105.5 or 106.7?

Also would 92.5,which is licenced to Atlanta,be considered in this market?If not would Midwestern be able to aquire that signal while also having two FM's on the east side of the state?

As a side note,WCCW-FM is not Streaming(as far as l know)on Midwestern's new radio app.,any reason for this?



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Re: WKLT-fm, Kalkaska and WKLZ-fm, Petoskey

Post by In the biz » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:28 pm

KLZ is not part of the purchase. It’s being sold to a Christian Broadcaster supposedly. Same with some of the others I’ve heard. Time will tell.



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Post by TC Talks » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:49 pm

:roll: Because what really is missing is Jesus on the Traverse City airwave...

Is this a commercial station reduction a la 103.9 going to CMU.


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