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Lulli 2, WNEM 0

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lovinlife101
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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by lovinlife101 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:32 am

nicklulli wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:12 am
By the way, you should see in my deposition where they asked why I didn’t sue buzzboard users for criticizing me. I’m not joking. This was after I amended the lawsuit to include defamation when I found out they were using a possibly altered version of a package I did in a “how not to be a reporter” video AFTER I counter-sued them.
It just gets more and more unbelievable.



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by Realist » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:28 am

nicklulli wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:12 am
By the way, you should see in my deposition where they asked why I didn’t sue buzzboard users for criticizing me. I’m not joking. This was after I amended the lawsuit to include defamation when I found out they were using a possibly altered version of a package I did in a “how not to be a reporter” video AFTER I counter-sued them.
I can’t imagine that this used to be the credible news organization that employed Jim Rush, Art VanDyke, Jim Kiertzner, Marian Strozier, Susan Shaw (amongst others) as anchors. What a disgrace they’ve become, not only in their news product but management also.



nicklulli
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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by nicklulli » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:03 am

All I can say is that I worked hard every day to be the best journalist I could be. Yes, the whole situation seems quite unbelievable. Imagine how much they spent in legal fees?

By the way, the Michigan Supreme Court has ruled that employee-required remuneration to the employer is illegal. That means that regardless of reasoning (health, etc.) you are allowed to leave a “contract” for any time at any reason for no penalty.

They could never even produce an original signed copy of my contract anyways for use in the case.

They also could never produce evidence of costs incurred to recruit me. I was interviewed by phone and by FaceTime. They did not spend any money to recruit me. My “replacement” testified he also received no paid training or cost the company money to recruit him.

Honestly, one of the big takeaways from this is the serious tort reform needed in this country. You can sue anyone and anytime for any reason, regardless of the truth. When you’re a publicly traded corporation with billions of dollars, versus someone who made not very much money, there’s an automatic advantage. Unlike in criminal law, indigent defendants are not provided an attorney at no cost.

Their whole intent of this lawsuit was to bully me into simply paying them money. Before they filed, they wanted me to pay $800 or so and sign a NATIONWIDE non-compete. Even though I had no plans to work in television, I was not going to sign ANYTHING because I was not required to. I also had no money to give them and wasn’t going to give it if I did. They then spent almost six months trying to serve me with the lawsuit more than 1000 miles away. The POLICE finally found me to serve me.

Again, the whole thing was such a waste of time and money. It really is sad. I am the first person WNEM ever did this to. They have had plenty of people leave “under contract” and they haven’t been sued. Their lawsuit itself was discriminatory. It’s so obvious their lawsuit was punitive in nature. You can’t milk a dry cow.

By the way, the starting raw union scale pay was $32,000 for a reporter. I negotiated $34,000 (second year scale pay). That’s how much I made before city, state, federal taxes. You can calculate the take home pay. They knew I had no money. What Ian failed to tell corporate was that I can be unapologetically brutal in my quest for what’s right. They failed to realize I would not give in to intimidation.



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by Realist » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:15 am

$34,000 divided into 2080 hours (40 hour work week x 52 weeks) is $16.35 an hour. They seriously tried pulling this shit? 🙄🙄🙄 So glad that Ian and Al are gone but it sounds as their replacements aren’t much better...

There are a couple of on air people there who aren’t bad but they need to jump ship and get off of that Titanic...



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by R Bedell » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:20 am

Nick:

Very interesting but I am not surprised. I have over the air (antenna) reception and the only reason why I watch TV5 is because they have the strongest signal in my area. The TV5 is not any better than TMZ (Trash Media Zone) TV.



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by nicklulli » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:34 am

Realist wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:15 am
$34,000 divided into 2080 hours (40 hour work week x 52 weeks) is $16.35 an hour. They seriously tried pulling this shit? 🙄🙄🙄 So glad that Ian and Al are gone but it sounds as their replacements aren’t much better...

There are a couple of on air people there who aren’t bad but they need to jump ship and get off of that Titanic...
The mediators who voted I should get $40,000 from Meredith were “collectively baffled” according to the people in the room. Nobody has ever seen anything like this. I walked away from WNEM and never said a single negative word, nor planned to, about my experience there. If you go look at my ‘goodbye’ Facebook post, it was intentionally vague. Nobody can understand why they wanted this all dragged out into the open.



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by mr v » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:03 am

Here's the fabricated story management sent Nick on. You will notice there are no flags being flown to offend anyone, of any kind. Only rumors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQMgYOAMoRc



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by nicklulli » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:38 am

mr v wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:03 am
Here's the fabricated story management sent Nick on. You will notice there are no flags being flown to offend anyone, of any kind. Only rumors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQMgYOAMoRc
So, yeah, that’s the story I got attacked on.

When I got there, the flags had been taken down.

The on-call manager that weekend was Ian Rubin. He directed me to go there on my own.

He had heard the story on a statewide radio program or on MLIVE.

I will say, the resulting ‘attack’ was legitimate. That was a very traumatizing experience. I don’t think at the time I realized the stress it could and would cause.

I agree with your assertion of it being a non-story.

They still sued me even though this was cited as a reason for my departure. I was extremely alarmed that they never followed up on the police report filed (assault) or my protection.

No matter your views on the subject matter or its merit as a news story, nobody should be assaulted on public property. We have a fundamental right to take photos or video of whatever we want as long as the subject isn’t something that normally enjoys privacy (enclosed bathrooms, bedrooms, etc.). Anyone driving or walking along that road can see what I was recording.

However, just because you have the right to do it, doesn’t make it smart. Should I have been sent to an inflammatory situation on my own? No. But, I was 21 years old and was not going to say ‘no’ to my boss after being on the job for only a couple months.



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by lovinlife101 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:39 am

THEY COULDN’T EVEN PRODUCE THE CONTRACT?

CASE CLOSED!!!

How could anyone let it get to this point?!

Where was the union? It was supposed to take care of you! IT FAILED!!!

Most of the “journalists” who still work there say they do it to make a difference, well, MAKE A DIFFERENCE BY NOT WORKING FOR GARBAGE LIKE THIS!!!

YOU ARE ADDING TO THE PROBLEM! YOU ARE HELPING IT ALONG!!!

STOP!!!
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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by nicklulli » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:54 am

lovinlife101 wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:39 am
THEY COULDN’T EVEN PRODUCE THE CONTRACT?

CASE CLOSED!!!

How could anyone let it get to this point?!
They couldn’t produce an original ink signature. All they showed me in my deposition were photocopies and the signature did not resemble mine at all. I even produced by license and other documents signed around the same time to show what my actual signature looked like.

The reason why it can get to this point is because civil litigation is like the Wild West. You can sue anyone at any time for any reason and that doesn’t make it true. You will have to defend it at your own cost. Since they use local outside counsel for disputes, the lawyers are going to keep doing the work and sending the invoices as long as Meredith keeps paying.



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by lovinlife101 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:45 pm

Should be Lulli $40,000, WNEM 0!

Funny how an entity that “asks the tough questions” and “doesn’t stop until it gets the answers you deserve” will treat another human being this way, much less an employee and former employee.

Lulli has set a new standard and precedent here. For those with a moral compass, who know the difference between right and wrong, who refuse to be mistreated, EVERYONE OUT OF THE WNEM POOL!!!



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by mr v » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:05 pm

Best of luck Nick, you made a good decision to leave TV 5. Glad you are back home again and hope you are doing well.



nicklulli
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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by nicklulli » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:10 pm

lovinlife101 wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:45 pm
Should be Lulli $40,000, WNEM 0!

Funny how an entity that “asks the tough questions” and “doesn’t stop until it gets the answers you deserve” will treat another human being this way, much less an employee and former employee.

Lulli has set a new standard and precedent here. For those with a moral compass, who know the difference between right and wrong, who refuse to be mistreated, EVERYONE OUT OF THE WNEM POOL!!!
And honestly, that one one of my reasons for fighting this. I had to prove I was correct if not simply for the other people in my same shoes. Do you know how many people came to my saying they were mistreated, etc.? A lot of people were waiting on the outcome of my case to decide what to do. Unfortunately a lot of them moved on now within Meredith.

I can’t stand people who are self-serving and two-faced. People who tell me one thing, tell me they’ll be truthful, and then lie under oath and take a promotion.

By the way, since the mediators decided in my favor, had WNEM gone to trial and lost, they would’ve been sanctioned by the state. They knew they couldn’t win.

So while I did not get any money, and spent a lot of wasted time, I am in the end at peace knowing I stuck to my guns and won against a mega corporation.

They have never done this to anyone else. You can check the records. Why they picked me....



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by nicklulli » Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:11 pm

mr v wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:05 pm
Best of luck Nick, you made a good decision to leave TV 5. Glad you are back home again and hope you are doing well.
Thanks! Also, had I accepted a settlement, I most likely would have been required to sign a non-disclosure agreement. So, I’m able to continue to freely discuss this.



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Re: Lulli 2, WNEM 0

Post by lovinlife101 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:12 pm

It’s actually not a bad business model. Recruit via online meeting so that it doesn’t cost any airfare. Hire. Don’t train. Talent leaves and demand $8,000.

But, again, where was the freakin’ union!



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