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Re: WPAY
I think WPAY-1520 AM has the most value, between them and the FM translaters. Granted an AM/FM combo is the better situation.Myron Falwell wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:53 pmNothing so far.
It's telling that EMF has been unable to unload it while every other AM station they've had to buy (as a throwaway with an FM purchase) have quickly been disposed of. They seriously don't want AM signals, and presumably have had it on the block for a decade.
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Re: WPAY
I happened to have been driving down M-52 this afternoon, all the way to the Ohio line.
The whole way along 52, WQCT was leading, with little CCI from WPAY.
After a left turn onto Ohio 120, WQCT Continued to lead several miles eastward. When I turned left onto the street that divides Fulton and Lucas Counties, they were about even.
Going northwards on that road quickly increased the signal of WPAY, especially after crossing Mulberry (2 miles North). WPAY quickly took over.
The surprise was the signal of WDTW-AM (La Zeta 1310). It was fairly strong along M-52 in Jasper, became weaker after the O-120 turn, and nearly faded away to nothing at Sterns and Secor, gaining a little when at Lewis.
This seems counterintuitive, as the path both approaches the WDTW TL and enters azimuths with greater radiation, but follows the usual pattern when leaving flat farmland and entering sandy forests.
WBGU-TV has done an interesting show about the Oak Openings. It's an "island" of inarable land surrounded by the Great Black Swamp (which has been drained and is now productive farmland).
Anyone here made this observation around the area?
I'm thinking of doing a longer post about AM radio and the Oak Openings.
The whole way along 52, WQCT was leading, with little CCI from WPAY.
After a left turn onto Ohio 120, WQCT Continued to lead several miles eastward. When I turned left onto the street that divides Fulton and Lucas Counties, they were about even.
Going northwards on that road quickly increased the signal of WPAY, especially after crossing Mulberry (2 miles North). WPAY quickly took over.
The surprise was the signal of WDTW-AM (La Zeta 1310). It was fairly strong along M-52 in Jasper, became weaker after the O-120 turn, and nearly faded away to nothing at Sterns and Secor, gaining a little when at Lewis.
This seems counterintuitive, as the path both approaches the WDTW TL and enters azimuths with greater radiation, but follows the usual pattern when leaving flat farmland and entering sandy forests.
WBGU-TV has done an interesting show about the Oak Openings. It's an "island" of inarable land surrounded by the Great Black Swamp (which has been drained and is now productive farmland).
Anyone here made this observation around the area?
I'm thinking of doing a longer post about AM radio and the Oak Openings.
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Re: WPAY
AM stations have no value to EMF. They sell them, if included with an FM purchase, as soon as possible. WPAY is the ONLY AM station they own.JGP1954 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:33 pmI think WPAY-1520 AM has the most value, between them and the FM translaters. Granted an AM/FM combo is the better situation.Myron Falwell wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:53 pmNothing so far.
It's telling that EMF has been unable to unload it while every other AM station they've had to buy (as a throwaway with an FM purchase) have quickly been disposed of. They seriously don't want AM signals, and presumably have had it on the block for a decade.
No one has stepped up to buy 1520 when it has been readily available for a decade, and for almost a year via radio brokers. That should tell you something.
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Re: WPAY
Yeah, the translator sounds bad. I don't know why, possibly is it the signal from the studios to the transmitter? Or, the quality of sound emitting from the transmitter? They wouldn't be pulling the off-air signal from the AM, and sending it over the air on the FM translator, would they? It's usually done the other way around, FM to AM.
Re: WPAY
One problem, and it's no surprise, WPAY has a programming issue, it's paid religion. Is it not? It's a very small niche of the program spectrum. And, there are literally hundreds of stations. Not exactly mass appeal!
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Re: WPAY
WPAY is a high-band AM in a market that has almost entirely abandoned the band for FM.
Think about it. WSPD still has some audience left with their older-skewing conservatalk, but that’s about it: WCWA 1230 simply doesn’t (but is useful enough running Fox Sports Radio), WLQR 1470 is deader than dead, and 730 and 1560 have super-niche audiences with their respective operators.
In all truth, that shouldn’t be an impediment to AFR, Urban Talk Radio or even Relevant Radio... but for some reason, it is.
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Re: WPAY
Last I knew, their translator absolutely repeating the AM signal over-the-air, and doing a lousy job at that.JGP1954 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:48 pmYeah, the translator sounds bad. I don't know why, possibly is it the signal from the studios to the transmitter? Or, the quality of sound emitting from the transmitter? They wouldn't be pulling the off-air signal from the AM, and sending it over the air on the FM translator, would they? It's usually done the other way around, FM to AM.
The receiver they were using was narrow-band. Audio quality on 1520 itself was FAR superior. When thunderstorms were in the area, I could hear thunderstorm noise on the translator.
At night, co-channel interference is clearly audible on the translator - estimated guess 1:8 ratio, worse than where I live. My guess is that the receiver for the translator is further west than here.
WPAY (AM) does not provide a strong signal to the western edge of Toledo nor to most of its western suburbs.
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Re: WPAY
Seriously, the land around those Effers must be in high demand. Splendor of 1970s suburbia with a lovely view of the Sun Oil refinery.
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Re: WPAY
I guess you're talking about DWLQR's towers.CurlyHoward wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:59 pmSeriously, the land around those Effers must be in high demand. Splendor of 1970s suburbia with a lovely view of the Sun Oil refinery.
WPAY's is about equidistant Toledo and BG (except it is a few miles east of I-75).
No view of the refinery nor Navarre from there.