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WLAV Tower Relocation

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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by originalzzmfmjock » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:46 pm

I think the cold weather and the snow cover may have something to do with LAV's better signal lately. I've heared some of the lower power FM's and pirate stations in places I don't usually hear them. I'm also getting some HD FM signals in the house that I don't usually hear. The noise floor on the FM band has been very quiet the past couple of weeks.



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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by TheGadgetGuy » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:45 pm

Cumulus has filed to extend WLAV's STA to operate from the WGVU-TV site for another 180 days: https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS_Att ... &exhcnum=1

The extension request also notes that they are currently preparing an application for a new permanent site and expects to file that application within the next 30 days.



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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by MWmetalhead » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:31 pm

Are they actually using the GVSU site? Anyone in Ottawa County know? If they are indeed using it - your signal should be good (western Ottawa County) or phenomenal (eastern Ottawa County).

I'll find out for myself tomorrow, as I'll be driving to G.R.


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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by CK-722 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:37 pm

Where oh where is the new permanent site? Does it closely emulate the old site service area, or does it sacrifice service under the newer Section 73.213, or the Section 73.213 from the heyday of short spaced Class B upgrades and relocations, where 50 kW/500 feet was allowed to be significantly short spaced to grandfathered short spaced stations, and substantial zones with 20 kW/500 feet, 10 kW/500 feet, and even an extremely short spaced 5 kW/500 feet, which I can't think of a single example of. 10 kW/500 feet was used for WJBL-FM/WKLQ Holland, the first move in. Then they allowed mutually agreed upgrades with 50 kW/500 feet and 100 kW/1000 feet directional for WCEN. Now WLAV sister stations WFBE and WOIA/WIQB/WWWW-FM were also 10 kW nondirectional from short towers, now with taller antennas, but with DAs.


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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by TheGadgetGuy » Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:28 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:31 pm
Are they actually using the GVSU site? Anyone in Ottawa County know? If they are indeed using it - your signal should be good (western Ottawa County) or phenomenal (eastern Ottawa County).

I'll find out for myself tomorrow, as I'll be driving to G.R.
Pretty sure that they have to be since the STA for the WTNR site is expired now.



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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:52 pm

Nope. They definitely are on the 107.3 site still. Crystal clear signal in Ionia County. Listenable signal as far away as west Lansing.

Yet another fuck up by Cumulus engineering. Is anyone surprised? I'm sure not!!

I don't think the FCC monitors STAs very closely, so I doubt there will be repercussions.

Edit - the same improvement in signal strength in Byron Twp. I noticed in February is still there. Not nearly as formidable as the original (licensed) TX site near Egypt Valley, but still very listenable. Some work clearly went in to maximizing the signal from the 107.3 site.


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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by cckadlec » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:57 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:52 pm
Nope. They definitely are on the 107.3 site still. Crystal clear signal in Ionia County. Listenable signal as far away as west Lansing.
Yeah, I still have Sheboygan K-Love and The Drive in WLAV's null in the same spot I did when they moved to 107.3's site, which clearly would not exist anymore had they moved. Finding a null in their original GR signal was difficult and an Allendale signal would be even more difficult here I'm sure.

Turning off their IBOC was one of the best FM band happenings here in West Michigan in years (where I live anyway) - 96.7 and 97.1 both wide open; even the Three Rivers translator is common up here in Fremont - and then moving further away from me just made it even better, though 107.3 is still a pesky local-as-f*ck signal that's hard to null. I never thought a 38-watter at 94 miles on a local frequency would be "regular."

Cheers to LAV and thank you for all your unfortunate missteps. Though it may sound like a cruel wish, I feel their missteps were (partially) due to corporate decision making gone wrong when they were displaced, so it's hard to feel sorry for them. I hope they stay put.


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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by MWmetalhead » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:05 pm

If they do indeed file an app for a new permanent TX site, my gut feeling is that it'll be located in Cannon Township.


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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by cckadlec » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:27 pm

I think those along the lakeshore and up to 15-20 miles inland should be prepared for The Drive this spring and summer...

Chicagoland signals are already slamming in on and off in the past week and once mid-May comes when it starts to be more of a daily thing, LAV will likely be an afterthought on 96.9 here on many days. LAV's signal has struggled on the Wisconsin shore as compared to in the past due to this move, though 107.3's coverage is still the same (well, okay, 107.3 Sheboygan took care of that later in the year actually, so poor comparison for 2019...).

At least listeners can't be upset that some translator or LP has blocked them out as is the usual case with reception loss these days. And to speak positively of the station, I do admire their off-format programming with Sunday jazz (which has thrown me off a few times while DXing from afar).


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Re: WLAV Tower Relocation

Post by CK-722 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:07 am

MWmetalhead wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:05 pm
If they do indeed file an app for a new permanent TX site, my gut feeling is that it'll be located in Cannon Township.
You really can't beat close replication of the 50 kW/500 foot facility. They had a great signal from there. When I lived in Genesee County, I could hear it virtually all the time with the Archer FM-10 Antenna and a Technics Tuner or other receiver or tuner with a narrow first adjacent setting. It was nearly as good as WJFM/WBCT and WOOD-FM/WSRW with Superpower.

WLAV-FM was easily receivable on a Delco car radio in the Lansing East Lansing Area.


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