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Let the great subchannel realignment begin

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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by ftballfan » Thu Apr 01, 2021 6:35 pm

In Tampa, WMOR is ATSC 3.0, with its 1.0 feeds simulcast on other stations:
WMOR's main channel (32.1) is on WFTS RF 17.5
MeTV (32.2) is on WTSP RF 10.6
Estrella TV (32.3) is on WTVT RF 12.6



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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by Jason Kragt » Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:25 pm

Looks like Twist will launch on 13-5 starting Monday.



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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by MasterB » Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:25 am

I don't get why WZZM doesn't ditch the weather channel or put it on the .5 and move True Crime Network to .2, Quest to .3, Twist to .4.


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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by Jason Kragt » Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:02 am

statmanmi wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:42 pm
I'll also guess that when the WOOD broadcast signal gets revised to include the fourth stream that will display as 15.1, it'll be in widescreen SD (standard definition; 480i), versus how today we receive the main WXSP in glorious 720p HD.
Probably correct, but WWMT and stations in the Cadillac/Traverse City/Sault Ste. Marie markets all seem to be able to pack two HD feeds on their channels. Maybe we will be surprised. Since I am unable to pick up any of the low-power WXSP translators, this will be a win for me regardless.



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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by MWmetalhead » Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:21 pm

The technology certainly exists today to pack two full HD signals (1080i even) onto the same RF channel with excellent picture quality, while still leaving room for additional 480i streams to boot.

I suspect WOOD-TV will upgrade to accommodate HD transmission for WXSP.


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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by Jason Kragt » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:59 am

statmanmi wrote:
Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:42 pm
"These will be their ATSC 1.0 simulcasts:
15.1 MyNetworkTV will be on WOOD's signals
15.2 Cozi will be on will be on WXMI's signals
15.3 CourtTV Mystery will be on WWMT's signal"
Can anyone confirm if 15.3 is actually CourtTV Mystery? I can't get that signal. If so, why would it need to move to WWMT? It is already on WXMI (17.4) and WZPX (43.5). Having one diginet repeated on three high power transmitters so close together seems ridiculous.



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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by Jason Kragt » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:41 pm

I am getting a 15-1 now in 720p. I think it is coming from WOOD-TV (RF 7). My TV doesn't tell me the source but I'm sure it is not coming from a WXSP low-power transmitter. WXSP is once again a subchannel of a full-power station. There is no 15-2 or 15-3.



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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by CJ » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:09 pm

Getting 15.1 in Kzoo again. WOOD’s website says 15.2 and 15.3 will be down for maintenance until 4/15.



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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by Random_Dude » Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:43 am

As of 09:00, channels are changing places. RF15 is dark, but there are 15.x channels attached to other signals, as seen in the scan from my tuner. Still waiting to see an ATSC 3.0 transmitter come online.

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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by Jason Kragt » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:59 pm

Looks like WOOD, WXMI and WWMT are each adopting one 15.x channel so 15 can upgrade to ATSC 3.0.



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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by MasterB » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:17 am

Nexstar launching a spinoff to Antenna TV called Rewind TV on Sep 1 sitcoms from the '80s to the '90s.


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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by Trip » Sat May 01, 2021 6:49 am

So did 3.0 ever launch on WXSP-CD and WOLP-CD?

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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by Trophyhead » Mon May 03, 2021 8:09 pm

I have not rescanned, I currently have three 15-2 stops on my channel + button, three for 15.3, one of each provides me COZI and Mystery TV, respectively. At the moment I cannot receive MyNetwork or whatever is on the "X".



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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by statmanmi » Tue May 04, 2021 12:57 pm

Hi Trophyhead,

Definitely give your TV(s) the rescan treatment.

As of 4/22, the channel that your TV(s) display as 15.1 is now part of the broadcast waves for WOOD TV (using the frequency referred to as RF7). It's being provided in 720p HD, causing 8-3 Laff to go blockier more than ever.

Possibly if you tuned your TV to WOOD TV NBC, that might cause it to find the new stream for 15-1...but the rescan is a sure-fired way to have it picked up.

If your curiosity is piqued, the MyNetworkTV lineup last evening was preempted for live AHL Griffins Hockey. They took it to overtime, but they lost the shootout, as you may have heard recapped elsewhere.
Trophyhead wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 8:09 pm
I have not rescanned, I currently have three 15-2 stops on my channel + button, three for 15.3, one of each provides me COZI and Mystery TV, respectively. At the moment I cannot receive MyNetwork or whatever is on the "X".
Cheers! ~~ Statmanmi



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Re: Let the great subchannel realignment begin

Post by Jason Kragt » Sat May 08, 2021 4:28 am

Trip wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 6:49 am
So did 3.0 ever launch on WXSP-CD and WOLP-CD?

- Trip
Apparently, yes, although I don't have the equipment to independently verify it.

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