New "highly mutated" strain of Covid - first US case in Michigan

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A return to mask-ups may happen. I would not like it, but would comply with no issue.

I think the lefties in our state have finally learned no one is going to cover for them if they try to institute lock-down idiocy again. There aren't enough lawyers to handle the suits that would correctly follow.

Only politicians enjoy lockdowns...

There are plenty of wannabee politicians (comedians) here in PolPot, but many of those who used to lather up to be the gubner's shield on the matter have since "changed their mind"...

Governor Dixon would like a word with how poorly the lockdowns were taken and how great that was for her.

You should take whomever that is up on it.

Ok here it is slowly… if the lockdowns were broadly rejected here then Dixon would have won. She got crushed.

The election was about abortion, not lockdowns.

Dixon tried like holy hell to make it about lockdowns. People didn't buy it.

[Matt]

A return to mask-ups may happen. I would not like it, but would comply with no issue.

I think the lefties in our state have finally learned no one is going to cover for them if they try to institute lock-down idiocy again. There aren't enough lawyers to handle the suits that would correctly follow.

Only politicians enjoy lockdowns...

There are plenty of wannabee politicians (comedians) here in PolPot, but many of those who used to lather up to be the gubner's shield on the matter have since "changed their mind"...

Governor Dixon would like a word with how poorly the lockdowns were taken and how great that was for her.

You should take whomever that is up on it.

Ok here it is slowly… if the lockdowns were broadly rejected here then Dixon would have won. She got crushed.

The election was about abortion, not lockdowns.

Dixon tried like holy hell to make it about lockdowns. People didn't buy it.

No, she didn't. She focused on cultural stuff when even Whitmer was scared she could be vulnerable from her terrible COVID handling.

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A return to mask-ups may happen. I would not like it, but would comply with no issue.

I think the lefties in our state have finally learned no one is going to cover for them if they try to institute lock-down idiocy again. There aren't enough lawyers to handle the suits that would correctly follow.

Only politicians enjoy lockdowns...

There are plenty of wannabee politicians (comedians) here in PolPot, but many of those who used to lather up to be the gubner's shield on the matter have since "changed their mind"...

Governor Dixon would like a word with how poorly the lockdowns were taken and how great that was for her.

You should take whomever that is up on it.

Ok here it is slowly… if the lockdowns were broadly rejected here then Dixon would have won. She got crushed.

The election was about abortion, not lockdowns.

Dixon tried like holy hell to make it about lockdowns. People didn't buy it.

No, she didn't. She focused on cultural stuff when even Whitmer was scared she could be vulnerable from her terrible COVID handling.

You don’t carry a 55% approval rating and get scared about stuff like that… that’s weak.

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Somebody at work the other day was telling me that someone, somewhere (a right winger without any evidence, how novel) was deciding that there would be another shut down in September. I don't buy it. I don't see it coming to that.

I will say we could use another one. Over a million Americans died, but judging by Grand River, not one of them was from Livingston County.

We never should have had a lockdown.

Ask the families of the 2 million people who died of the virus what they think of lockdowns.

They'll most likely say Lockdowns didn't make a f*ckin difference....
Only people who benefited from those ridiculous lockdowns of 2020 are....
The politicians and "Leaders" who mandated and handed out Executive Orders like Halloween Candy...
You know, the one's who told YOU and ME to stay home while they private jetted to Florida, and a 2021 Inauguration...

Did you lose any family?

And why do you care what Trump did during COVID? I personally apologize that your trust fund wasn't as big as his.

I stand by my comments "TC"...
Now get back to the 24/7 coverage of Trump on MSNBC you so enjoy....

[TC Talks]

Somebody at work the other day was telling me that someone, somewhere (a right winger without any evidence, how novel) was deciding that there would be another shut down in September. I don't buy it. I don't see it coming to that.

I will say we could use another one. Over a million Americans died, but judging by Grand River, not one of them was from Livingston County.

We never should have had a lockdown.

Ask the families of the 2 million people who died of the virus what they think of lockdowns.

They'll most likely say Lockdowns didn't make a f*ckin difference....
Only people who benefited from those ridiculous lockdowns of 2020 are....
The politicians and "Leaders" who mandated and handed out Executive Orders like Halloween Candy...
You know, the one's who told YOU and ME to stay home while they private jetted to Florida, and a 2021 Inauguration...

Did you lose any family?

And why do you care what Trump did during COVID? I personally apologize that your trust fund wasn't as big as his.

I stand by my comments "TC"...
Now get back to the 24/7 coverage of Trump on MSNBC you so enjoy....

I haven't had cable since 2003, but thanks for your guess.

Curious, how many people should have died during the pandemic to make you happy?

I take it you don't know anyone in healthcare either. Ignorance is the conservative way I guess.

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Somebody at work the other day was telling me that someone, somewhere (a right winger without any evidence, how novel) was deciding that there would be another shut down in September. I don't buy it. I don't see it coming to that.

I will say we could use another one. Over a million Americans died, but judging by Grand River, not one of them was from Livingston County.

We never should have had a lockdown.

Ask the families of the 2 million people who died of the virus what they think of lockdowns.

They'll most likely say Lockdowns didn't make a f*ckin difference....
Only people who benefited from those ridiculous lockdowns of 2020 are....
The politicians and "Leaders" who mandated and handed out Executive Orders like Halloween Candy...
You know, the one's who told YOU and ME to stay home while they private jetted to Florida, and a 2021 Inauguration...

Did you lose any family?

And why do you care what Trump did during COVID? I personally apologize that your trust fund wasn't as big as his.

I stand by my comments "TC"...
Now get back to the 24/7 coverage of Trump on MSNBC you so enjoy....

I haven't had cable since 2003, but thanks for your guess.

Curious, how many people should have died during the pandemic to make you happy?

I take it you don't know anyone in healthcare either. Ignorance is the conservative way I guess.

I agree with you on cable, I haven't had it since 2021...
Anyone who passed during the pandemic has my empathy, I was not happy...
I know many in Healthcare, again just because I lean a certain way in my politics , you instantly assume I think a certain way...
You couldn't be more wrong.
You can have the last word....

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Let me be clear that I still support the lockdowns that were done. They did in fact work according to several studies. Things would have been worse.

The only reason I oppose future lockdowns is under the assumption that the mortality risk doesn’t approach pre Omicron levels.

[km1125]

Yea, the "lockdowns" worked great for those old folks who ended up with COVID-positive folks "locked" in with them!!!

DOH!!

[Matt]

Let me be clear that I still support the lockdowns that were done. They did in fact work according to several studies. Things would have been worse.

The only reason I oppose future lockdowns is under the assumption that the mortality risk doesn’t approach pre Omicron levels.

So MCRF/TCT are to lockdowns as BMW is to Trump? It's ok for you all to admit you were wrong.

https://www.facs.org/for-medical-profes ... ng-delays/

[bmw]

No logical argument can be made that the lockdowns "worked" when over 80 percent of the population ultimately contracted Covid. It could be argued that there was marginal benefit prior to the vaccine being widely available and when a relatively low percentage of natural immunity existed, but I wold argue that the harm caused by the lockdowns far outweighed this small benefit.

Now as an aside, maybe Matt will admit he was wrong about herd immunity not being a thing. Herd immunity is precisely why Covid is pretty much just 5% the concern it was even a year ago.

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No logical argument can be made that the lockdowns "worked" when over 80 percent of the population ultimately contracted Covid. It could be argued that there was marginal benefit prior to the vaccine being widely available and when a relatively low percentage of natural immunity existed, but I wold argue that the harm caused by the lockdowns far outweighed this small benefit.

Now as an aside, maybe Matt will admit he was wrong about herd immunity not being a thing. Herd immunity is precisely why Covid is pretty much just 5% the concern it was even a year ago.

The lockdowns did slow the initial rate of infection somewhat as did the distancing and closures… so it may have eased the strain on the healthcare system a little bit.

[Matt]

No logical argument can be made that the lockdowns "worked" when over 80 percent of the population ultimately contracted Covid. It could be argued that there was marginal benefit prior to the vaccine being widely available and when a relatively low percentage of natural immunity existed, but I wold argue that the harm caused by the lockdowns far outweighed this small benefit.

Now as an aside, maybe Matt will admit he was wrong about herd immunity not being a thing. Herd immunity is precisely why Covid is pretty much just 5% the concern it was even a year ago.

I don't think I ever said herd immunity wasn't a thing. I suggested that everyone, including those that previously infected, should be vaccinated. Mass vaccination of 90% or greater would have had us in this position 2 years ago.

[bmw]

I don't think I ever said herd immunity wasn't a thing.

Herd immunity isn't a thing with this.

[Matt]

I don't think I ever said herd immunity wasn't a thing.

Herd immunity isn't a thing with this.

You can read the full quote here: https://www.mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/view ... s.#p687665

Herd immunity isn't a thing with this. It is endemic as I've believed for awhile.

Looks like I was right.

[MotorCityRadioFreak]

After seeing my dad’s V02 Max dip directly after he took the booster(not the original vaccine), I regret getting the booster. He does as well. I don’t regret getting the initial vaccine series due to fact that they were moderately effective against death.

I still think masks and social distancing are still a good idea in high risk, high trafficked areas. However, they shouldn’t be mandatory.