Masks In Michigan

[TC Talks]

Dude!

YOU were the one who posted the numbers which I analyzed. You don't like the analysis, so now you want to use DIFFERENT numbers - numbers which are wholly irrelevant to my point.

And to use your own words - are YOU now challenging the credibility of the CDC's research?

Dude, things change daily, and get worse. Low masking = higher infection rates

[Matt]

Dude!

YOU were the one who posted the numbers which I analyzed. You don't like the analysis, so now you want to use DIFFERENT numbers - numbers which are wholly irrelevant to my point.

And to use your own words - are YOU now challenging the credibility of the CDC's research?

Dude, things change daily, and get worse. Low masking = higher infection rates

Wrong. Low vaccination = higher infection rates. Beaumont announced results of a study yesterday saying virtually all hospitalizations are unvaccinated people. Masks don't do shit.

[kager]

Does anyone think the unvaxed are masking up on their own - without a mandate or requirement - to protect others?

Dude!

YOU were the one who posted the numbers which I analyzed. You don't like the analysis, so now you want to use DIFFERENT numbers - numbers which are wholly irrelevant to my point.

And to use your own words - are YOU now challenging the credibility of the CDC's research?

Dude, things change daily, and get worse. Low masking = higher infection rates

Wrong. Low vaccination = higher infection rates. Beaumont announced results of a study yesterday saying virtually all hospitalizations are unvaccinated people. Masks don't do shit.

[zzand]

In my experience those who won't get the jab also won't wear a mask as they think the whole situation is bullshit.

[MWmetalhead]

Bingo.

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[Matt]

Do you wear a mask to prevent against polio?

[TC Talks]

At the beginning, they used masks and quarantine. My dad walks with a limp due to polio, and was grateful for science which saved his life.

What they didn't have was internet scientists using truthy math to disprove actual research.

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[Matt]

Except. Vaccinated. People. Are. Not. Being. Intubated.

I can understand wearing a mask in a crowded place, but vaccinated people don't really need masks for their own safety, per science.

[SoutheastMIViewer]

.There were 10.700 people at the Big House on Saturday. Not too long ago, that would have been called a "super spreader" event. Now, it seems 10.700 people sitting shoulder to shoulder is just dandy.

I think you mean 107,000.

Vaccines weren't available on a widespread basis when the term "super spreader" was being used.

Vaccines do not stop the virus. a vaccinated person can still contract and or spread the covid virus.

So the term “super spreader” is still applicable

[SoutheastMIViewer]

In my experience those who won't get the jab also won't wear a mask as they think the whole situation is bullshit.

In my experience, people who wont get the jab and wont wear a mask are not blinded by the bullshit democrats do from what they say.

Wear a mask!
Democrats out at events not wearing a mask.

Do not travel!
democrats out traveling

Stand six feet apart and avoid large gatherings
Democrats at large gatherings standing shoulder to shoulder with people.

This was all before the vaccine and in 2020.

That's a lot of bullshit that came out of the Democrats mouth.

Don't blame the unvaccinated when it was the Democrats who started it all by there doing.

[zzand]

But it is those who are unvaccinated who are driving the current surge. The science backs it up. Anyone who doesn't have the brain cells to think for themselves and says well this politician or celebrity said......is too dumb to leave their house.

[bmw]

But it is those who are unvaccinated who are driving the current surge.

That is factually untrue. Fundamentally, it is people who are carrying the virus and don't self-isolate that are driving the current surge. These people generally include 2 groups:

1 - Unvaccinated people who have no natural immunity from prior infection;
2 - Vaccinated people who are getting breakthrough cases.

Your supposition completely ignores people with breakthrough cases (who are spreading the virus) as well as unvaccinated people who have had prior infection (who are not spreading the virus).

As I've pointed out before, if it were only unvaccinated people who were spreading the virus, then the number of daily cases would be orders of magnitude lower than it is now considering that nearly 2/3 of the population would be excluded from the virus host pool.

[Matt]

But it is those who are unvaccinated who are driving the current surge.

That is factually untrue. Fundamentally, it is people who are carrying the virus and don't self-isolate that are driving the current surge. These people generally include 2 groups:

1 - Unvaccinated people who have no natural immunity from prior infection;
2 - Vaccinated people who are getting breakthrough cases.

Your supposition completely ignores people with breakthrough cases (who are spreading the virus) as well as unvaccinated people who have had prior infection (who are not spreading the virus).

As I've pointed out before, if it were only unvaccinated people who were spreading the virus, then the number of daily cases would be orders of magnitude lower than it is now considering that nearly 2/3 of the population would be excluded from the virus host pool.

What about those who had covid and get it again?