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Masks In Michigan

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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:08 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:14 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:28 pm
He was referring to one Chinese vendor, not all Chinese vendors.
but the point was that the CDC was warning folks not to use these because they might not be up to N-95 specs, due to quality control issues. How do you think that this "N-95" mask that doesn't quite make the grade compares to all the surgical masks and home-made masks folks are using?? If the "not quite up to the task" N-95 one is a risk to use, doesn't that make any mask that's "not quite up to an N-95" also a risk?
Does anyone have a link from the CDC site that suggests not to wear a certain mask?


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:12 pm

Matt wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:57 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:19 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:28 pm
He was referring to one Chinese vendor, not all Chinese vendors.
He's trying to suggest that masks don't work. He's been doing this for months.
WRONG. He's not anti-mask, he's anti-vaccine. I'd argue being anti-vaccine is worse. A vaccinated person should not be wearing a mask unless they have children under 12
I've been wearing a mask indoors. My friends at the ICU at the local hospital are seeing a rise in breakthrough from J&J vaccine in particular.

I went to a bunch of shows in venues 25,000+. I definitely wore a mask at the gate and in the pit.


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Re: Masks In Michigan

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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by audiophile » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:31 pm

I'm not anti-mask or anti-vaccine.

If you remember, I was pushing for REAL masks in March 2020! I have had a P100 mask since late March 2020.

I am for personal choice on vaccines, after severe reactions hit my children several years ago, YMMV.


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by Matt » Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:10 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:12 pm
Matt wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:57 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:19 pm
MWmetalhead wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:28 pm
He was referring to one Chinese vendor, not all Chinese vendors.
He's trying to suggest that masks don't work. He's been doing this for months.
WRONG. He's not anti-mask, he's anti-vaccine. I'd argue being anti-vaccine is worse. A vaccinated person should not be wearing a mask unless they have children under 12
I've been wearing a mask indoors. My friends at the ICU at the local hospital are seeing a rise in breakthrough from J&J vaccine in particular.

I went to a bunch of shows in venues 25,000+. I definitely wore a mask at the gate and in the pit.
Why?


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:27 am

Why what? Why a mask?


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by Robert Faygo » Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:38 am

You have to understand that TC Talks is more special than all of the rest of us.

He takes cuts to get a third vaccination months before anyone approved such a thing. He's got concerts to attend!

From July 2:
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I just got the J&J vaccine Thursday. This, plus my Pfizer in February has been shown to dramatically improve protection against Delta.

I have 22 days of music festivals to attend through October.


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by Matt » Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:32 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:27 am
Why what? Why a mask?
You've gotten three shots - why in the fuck you wearing a mask?


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:28 pm

Matt wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:32 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:27 am
Why what? Why a mask?
You've gotten three shots - why in the fuck you wearing a mask?
I have two shots, and breakthrough happens.


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by Robert Faygo » Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:39 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:28 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:32 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:27 am
Why what? Why a mask?
You've gotten three shots - why in the fuck you wearing a mask?
I have two shots, and breakthrough happens.
So you decided to ignore the recommendation for your second Pfizer shot in the winter and weren't actually fully vaccinated until July when you got the J&J shot?

Just trying to keep track of your hypocrisy in regards to science and vaccines. Or maybe you're just a chronic liar.


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by bmw » Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:50 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:28 pm
I have two shots, and breakthrough happens.
So do car accidents. I assume you're also avoiding riding in or driving in motor vehicles? You know, to make absolute certain you don't die.



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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by Matt » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:55 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:28 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:32 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:27 am
Why what? Why a mask?
You've gotten three shots - why in the fuck you wearing a mask?
I have two shots, and breakthrough happens.
You have three shots and breakthroughs aren't a big issue, per science.


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by Bryce » Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:44 am

.There were 10.700 people at the Big House on Saturday. Not too long ago, that would have been called a "super spreader" event. Now, it seems 10.700 people sitting shoulder to shoulder is just dandy.

Anyone know the percentage of folks wearing masks?


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:29 am

Matt wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:55 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:28 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:32 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:27 am
Why what? Why a mask?
You've gotten three shots - why in the fuck you wearing a mask?
I have two shots, and breakthrough happens.
You have three shots and breakthroughs aren't a big issue, per science.
Matt wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:55 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:28 pm
Matt wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:32 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:27 am
Why what? Why a mask?
You've gotten three shots - why in the fuck you wearing a mask?
I have two shots, and breakthrough happens.
You have three shots and breakthroughs aren't a big issue, per science.
I had a two-part and a one part. I will be getting third, a booster in October. When I am in a venue with 25,000 people, many unvaccinated, I wear a mask. I fly often, so I also use one there too.
Hospitalized or fatal COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC as of August 30, 2021
As of August 30, 2021, more than 173 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 12,908 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died.

Total number of vaccine breakthrough infections reported to CDC
Deaths
[Total=2,437] Hospitalized, non-fatal
[Total=10,471]
Females 1,082 (44%) 5,059 (48%)
People aged ≥65 years 2,124 (87%) 7,282 (70%)
Asymptomatic or not COVID-related* 480 (21%) 2,409 (25%)
*Patient had no symptoms of COVID-19 or their hospitalization or death was not COVID-related

Previous data on all vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC from January–April 2021 are available.
BMW, piss off with your stupid attempts at associative reasoning. You are advocating reckless behavior plain and simple.


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Re: Masks In Michigan

Post by MWmetalhead » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:31 am

So do car accidents. I assume you're also avoiding riding in or driving in motor vehicles? You know, to make absolute certain you don't die.
That's kind of a stupid analogy, don't you think?

Avoiding motor transportation is incredibly inconvenient in some cases. Some people must drive for work.

Please explain how wearing a face mask in public spaces causes major inconvenience with regard to normal daily activity.

If you were comparing, say, preventative shut-downs in the post-vaccine environment to driving, then the analogy would make sense.
During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 12,908 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died.
How many hospitalizations or deaths were there among the non-vaccinated over that same time period?



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