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Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

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Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:52 pm

Looks like Trump is going out of his way to kill his voters in Michigan...
"When the federal government told us that we needed to go it ourselves, we started procuring every item we could get our hands on," Whitmer said Friday on WWJ 950AM. "What I've gotten back is that vendors with whom we had contracts are now being told not to send stuff here to Michigan. It's really concerning."

"We've entered into a number of contracts and as we are getting closer to the date when shipments are supposed to come in, they're getting canceled or they're getting delayed," Whitmer said. "We've been told they're going first to the federal government."
On Monday, Whitmer said one unnamed hospital received a shipment last weekend from the federal government of 747 N95 protective masks, 204 gowns, 40,467 gloves and 64 face shields.

"With the exception of the gloves, that allotment of PPE didn't cover one shift," Whitmer said Thursday.

Whitmer spokeswoman Tiffany Brown confirmed Friday to Crain's that the state needs 400,000 N95 protective medical masks each day for the next several weeks to keep up with demand.


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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by MWmetalhead » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:03 am

Not sure if this is a case of the Feds blocking orders or suppliers picking & choosing whose orders get filled first.


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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by audiophile » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:23 am

One hospital uses 747 N95 masks in one shift?


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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by km1125 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:32 am

TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:52 pm
Whitmer spokeswoman Tiffany Brown confirmed Friday to Crain's that the state needs 400,000 N95 protective medical masks each day for the next several weeks to keep up with demand.
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The numbers just don't add up. How many folks are hospitalized today? How many are tested? How can you possibly need 400,000 a day at this time?? Either folks are being very, very sloppy with their utilization of available equipment, or those numbers are highly overstated.



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Post by craig11152 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:00 pm

I was going to provide the link, Its from Crains but I have hit my free story limit.
In any case TC Talks is less than honest in facts.
Whitmer couldn't or wouldn't name any vendors
FEMA denies her allegation that Michigan has been cut out.
And even though I voted for her she is harming our state with her pissing match with Trump. I think she has aspirations for the presidency in 2024 or 2028 and she sees a tit for tat twitter war with Trump as a plus for those aspirations. I watched all of yesterdays briefing and Trump had nice things to say about 48 Governors. Her war with Trump isn't all on him.


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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:30 pm

So are you going to send this post to the healthcare worker's kid at their parent's funeral?

TRUMP is playing politics with first responders. We were informed by our EOC there will be no ppe sent outside the Detroit area because FEMA isn't sending it to us. That isn't speculation, that is a fact.

Imagine if this was a war, and he started playing games with bullets.
craig11152 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:00 pm
I was going to provide the link, Its from Crains but I have hit my free story limit.
In any case TC Talks is less than honest in facts.
Whitmer couldn't or wouldn't name any vendors
FEMA denies her allegation that Michigan has been cut out.
And even though I voted for her she is harming our state with her pissing match with Trump. I think she has aspirations for the presidency in 2024 or 2028 and she sees a tit for tat twitter war with Trump as a plus for those aspirations. I watched all of yesterday's briefing and Trump had nice things to say about 48 Governors. Her war with Trump isn't all on him.
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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:33 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:32 am
The numbers just don't add up. How many folks are hospitalized today? How many are tested? How can you possibly need 400,000 a day at this time?? Either folks are being very, very sloppy with their utilization of available equipment, or those numbers are highly overstated.
Are you a supply chain specialist in health care? Our hospital alone uses 22,000 a week.


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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by Rate This » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:03 pm

km1125 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:32 am
TC Talks wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:52 pm
Whitmer spokeswoman Tiffany Brown confirmed Friday to Crain's that the state needs 400,000 N95 protective medical masks each day for the next several weeks to keep up with demand.
The numbers just don't add up. How many folks are hospitalized today? How many are tested? How can you possibly need 400,000 a day at this time?? Either folks are being very, very sloppy with their utilization of available equipment, or those numbers are highly overstated.
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They don’t use the same mask all day for any number of reasons. There are also more healthcare workers than you think so if they all use 3 or 4 masks a day it adds up.



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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:04 pm

Read and learn before posting ignorantly.

https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/0,5885,7 ... --,00.html


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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by Rate This » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:06 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:04 pm
Read and learn before posting ignorantly.

https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/0,5885,7 ... --,00.html
That mentions beds... I don’t see anything about masks... I would imagine this wasn’t directed at me anyways.



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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:09 pm

Rate This wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:06 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:04 pm
Read and learn before posting ignorantly.
https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/0,5885,7 ... --,00.html
That mentions beds... I don’t see anything about masks... I would imagine this wasn’t directed at me anyways.
Not to you, but Mr Supply Chain. There are hundreds of thousands of beds in Michigan hospitals.


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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by Rate This » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:16 pm

TC Talks wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:09 pm
Rate This wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:06 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:04 pm
Read and learn before posting ignorantly.
https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/0,5885,7 ... --,00.html
That mentions beds... I don’t see anything about masks... I would imagine this wasn’t directed at me anyways.
Not to you, but Mr Supply Chain. There are hundreds of thousands of beds in Michigan hospitals.
Ah ok, yeah do we have any data about how many people potentially are employed in positions where they come into contact and thus need a mask?



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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by TC Talks » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:19 pm

That same page has critical care workers.


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Re: Trump administration blocking PPE and other supplies to Michigan

Post by tapeisrolling » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:13 pm

I know an EMT who is using the SAME mask he had last week. He cleans it every shift. Keep in mind each cleaning reduces the effectiveness. So when he shows up for your heart attack he may have just transported a Covid patient. Just one of the reasons a lot of protective ware gets used daily.



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