Oh Shit! May 15th!? Gov. Whitmer to extend “Stay Home – Stay Safe” into May

[audiophile]

Polling is way wrong. They only poll people who have nothing better to do.

[Deleted User 4520]

I do think Whitmer is vying for that VP spot of sorts. She just loves all the attention from state and national media, good or bad.

[bmw]

The irony is, her VP stock has been slowly falling. She has fallen all the way into 6th place in PredictIt at a mere 8 percent chance of getting the nod.

[kager]

Gilchrist is but a marketing dweeb. Nevertheless, the ditz gash gotta go now...

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Polling is way wrong. They only poll people who have nothing better to do.

Well actually responses are way way up... so they are likely getting an even better sample than usual. They don’t ever get it wrong by 30 or 40% either. It’s a small but vocal minority and that’s it.

[bmw]

They don’t ever get it wrong by 30 or 40% either.

Not true. Hillary led by close to 30 points in Michigan all major polls in the 2016 Democratic primaries, but Bernie ultimately won the state.

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They don’t ever get it wrong by 30 or 40% either.

Not true. Hillary led by close to 30 points in Michigan all major polls in the 2016 Democratic primaries, but Bernie ultimately won the state.

Well usually not anyways. Bernie is a little unique kind of like Trump... his base is so loyal that they ALL came out and apparently her support was softer by quite a bit. However generally polls don’t consistently miss by that much.

[bmw]

My problem with relying on these "support/oppose" polls is that the way they're worded is too vague. Here is the language from the latest poll:

"Do you approve or disapprove of the job Governor Gretchen Whitmer is doing handling the Covid-19 crisis?"

How about a question like "Do you feel that any of the restrictions in Governor Gretchen Whitmer's shelter-in-place executive order..." (and then something like) "infringe on your civil liberties?" or "go too far?"

If you look at the breakdown, her approval rating on handling the current pandemic is 89% among Democrats, 22% among Republicans, and 56% among independents. I suspect there is a sizable group of people among Republicans and Independents who OVERALL approve of her handling of the crisis but also still believe that some things in the EO go too far.

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My problem with relying on these "support/oppose" polls is that the way they're worded is too vague. Here is the language from the latest poll:

"Do you approve or disapprove of the job Governor Gretchen Whitmer is doing handling the Covid-19 crisis?"

How about a question like "Do you feel that any of the restrictions in Governor Gretchen Whitmer's shelter-in-place executive order..." (and then something like) "infringe on your civil liberties?" or "go too far?"

If you look at the breakdown, her approval rating on handling the current pandemic is 89% among Democrats, 22% among Republicans, and 56% among independents. I suspect there is a sizable group of people among Republicans and Independents who OVERALL approve of her handling of the crisis but also still believe that some things in the EO go too far.

But are they at the level of the protesters who want to recall her among other things? I doubt it. The AP found similar results on a national level as well.

[TC Talks]

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Today (April 24) There should be an announcement of the easing of some low risk restrictions and that everyone should be wearing masks in public.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... tions.html

[ftballfan]

The good thing: She didn't extend it through Memorial Day (yet), like what Wisconsin and Illinois have done (Wisconsin's ends May 26 while Illinois' ends May 30). If she were to go much longer than May 15, there will be money leaving the state (assuming IN and OH have fewer restrictions by then, people near those lines will cross them for services even more than they already do).

I saw that Cuomo talked about lifting certain restrictions by regions of his state after May 15. Could Whitmer do that? If she did, would some complain that it would be unfair?

If I had a regional plan, here is how they would be divided.
Region 1: The Upper Peninsula
Region 2: Northern Lower Michigan (Alcona, Alpena, Antrim, Arenac, Benzie, Charlevoix, Cheboygan, Clare, Crawford, Emmet, Gladwin, Grand Traverse, Iosco, Isabella, Kalkaska, Lake, Leelanau, Manistee, Mason, Mecosta, Missaukee, Montmorency, Newaygo, Oceana, Ogemaw, Osceola, Oscoda, Otsego, Presque Isle, Roscommon, and Wexford counties)
Region 3: Southwest Michigan (Allegan, Barry, Berrien, Branch, Calhoun, Cass, Ionia, Kalamazoo, Kent, Montcalm, Muskegon, Ottawa, St. Joseph, and Van Buren counties)
Region 4: Mid-Michigan (Clinton, Eaton, Gratiot, Hillsdale, Ingham, Jackson, Lenawee, and Shiawassee counties)
Region 5: Tri-Cities/Thumb (Bay, Huron, Lapeer, Midland, Saginaw, Sanilac, St. Clair, and Tuscola counties)
Region 6: Southeast Michigan (Genesee, Livingston, Macomb, Monroe, Oakland, Washtenaw, and Wayne counties) [Monroe County would be in region 4 if it didn't border both Washtenaw and Wayne counties]

[Matt]

Rate This: Polls only matter if Republicans are winning... Didn't you know?

Today (April 24) There should be an announcement of the easing of some low risk restrictions and that everyone should be wearing masks in public.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... tions.html

No they only matter when interpreted correctly as bmw articulated. You are clearly incapable of being intellectually honest.

[audiophile]

Seems like the governor is getting the message after republican legislators refused to extend and citizens started protesting.

What she is doing is what I would have done on March 13!

I WAS THE ONLY ON HERE PUSHING MASKS FOR ALL INDOORS! RT even doubted me

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No they only matter when interpreted correctly as bmw articulated. You are clearly incapable of being intellectually honest.

Wait, you supported Trump and Schuette right? Are you in a position to judge intellectually honest? Are you in a position to judge anything? I don't think so.

What she is doing is what I would have done on March 13!

You are only looking at outstate and pre-apex. The Governor must take the behavior of those people in Metro Detroit. Clearly, we have flattened the curve, so her actions have worked successfully.

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The Governor must take the behavior of those people in Metro Detroit.

Your blatant hatred for people from downstate that "invade your territory" is now morphing itself into what could be considered by some as either racism, classism, or elitism. Not sure which, but it reveals a lot about you.