When can we start calling this a pandemic of the vaccinated?

[Reagan4prez]

I really appreciate all of the facts and figures here. I'm a numbers person. A facts over feelings person. So let's discuss these facts involving the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. My question is, what is the goal of those promoting and/or requiring the COVID-19 vaccine? If it's to keep people from getting COVID-19, they've failed. If it's to keep it from spreading, they've failed. If it's to keep people from dying, they have failed. Sure, there's an argument that the vaccinated don't get COVID-19 as much, are less likely to spread it, and make it so that fewer people die from it, but there's no evidence that those people who get COVID-19, whether vaccinated or not, would have faired any differently since everyone has different reactions to vaccinations and viruses. We need data of someone who has gotten COVID-19 unvaccinated, then gets vaccinated and compare the symptoms. Did they do any better with the vaccine? Did their natural immunities help? We don't know the answers to these questions.

But here are some other facts that nobody is talking about:


If unvaccinated:

1. You can get COVID-19.
2. You can spread COVID-19.
3. You can die from COVID-19.



If vaccinated:

1. You can get COVID-19. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... cases.html
2. You can spread COVID-19. https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus- ... vaccinated
3. You can die from COVID-19. https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Docume ... inated.pdf
4. You can get blood clots from the shot. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02291-2
5. You can die from the shot. https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19 ... blood-clot

So, there's an argument that getting the vaccine could be worse for you, again, depending on how your body reacts to vaccines and viruses.

My take? Let people do what they believe is best with their own medical decisions and leave them alone.

[Reagan4prez]

The honest argument from those who want to force vaccinations on others is “You're not being careful enough.”

Honest, science-based persons realize that both the vaccinated and unvaccinated can get COVID-19, can spread COVID-19, and can die from COVID-19. Plus, as a bonus for those who got the shot, you could get blood clots and die from that.

The argument from those who want to force medical decisions on others is that “Well, you have a better chance vaccinated.”

But those numbers are trending in the other direction.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-healt ... ed-anymore

[Reagan4prez]

A vaccine so effective it now requires a booster shot! Maybe annual boosters!