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Re: Source: Cumulus Detroit is for sale...

Post by Calvert DeForest » Thu May 16, 2019 10:26 am

Mega Hertz wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 3:11 pm
TC Talks wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 2:27 pm
Mega Hertz wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 10:47 am
I got some bottles and cans in my car and garage. I'll make them an offer they can't refuse.
I'll pitch in a 30-gallon bag full of cans for your cause, but I want studio naming rights. I doubt it will take much. With that list of markets available, Detroit will likely be at the bottom of the list of sought after markets, unless Akron or Dayton is for sale.
You drive a hard bargain, TC. But I think we can work something out.
I can contribute some old airchecks of J.P. and Ernie & Paul Tigers games.


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Re: Source: Cumulus Detroit is for sale...

Post by MWmetalhead » Thu May 16, 2019 1:59 pm

760 is not that much better of a facility than 950 during daylight hours these days. At night, gains would mainly be on the far western and eastern flanks of the market.

AM radio will slowly be phased out on many new car radios over the next 10 years unless the FCC takes action.

The way to mitigate that is for WJR and WWJ to move to - or simulcast on - FM at some point, not to (a) trade one AM signal for another and (b) undertaking some sort of asinine rebranding scheme.


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Re: Source: Cumulus Detroit is for sale...

Post by Ben Zonia » Thu May 16, 2019 4:05 pm

Too few hands own too many stations. If they have 8 stations in a market, or even 5 or less, chances are that one or more of them is considered a throwaway, and they are seriously mismanaged. They just keep them in order to keep them out of the hands of competitors. Usually this is an AM or a serious rimshot Class A FM. Class A FMs can do well though, if the signal is centered where the population is centered. That's why they are so paranoid about "move-ins", which they respect as much as the farmer respects the boll weevil. Keep them out 25 miles, and they'll have no impact. Thats why they have rules like First Local Service and pushes to "equitably distribute facilities in all geographic areas". That is an anticompetitive load. Put them near the center, they can compete with far out grandfathered Class Bs and Class Cs. Goofy, conniving, cutthroat, business. Read the autobiographies, it wasn't always that bad.


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Re: Source: Cumulus Detroit is for sale...

Post by CK-722 » Thu May 16, 2019 4:27 pm

WJR has a better signal for all areas except close in in the major lobe of WWJ. It's the programming, but not just Right vs. Left. WJR's News could be a lot better. That would help their ratings a lot. Where I hang out, WJR has twice the Field Strength as WWJ. They used to be close to equal to WJR when WWJ was on Eight Mile Rd. with just 5000 watts.


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Re: Source: Cumulus Detroit is for sale...

Post by Chuck Davies » Thu May 16, 2019 9:36 pm

MWmetalhead wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 1:59 pm
760 is not that much better of a facility than 950 during daylight hours these days. At night, gains would mainly be on the far western and eastern flanks of the market.

AM radio will slowly be phased out on many new car radios over the next 10 years unless the FCC takes action.

The way to mitigate that is for WJR and WWJ to move to - or simulcast on - FM at some point, not to (a) trade one AM signal for another and (b) undertaking some sort of asinine rebranding scheme.
Totally agree, Both stations need to get to the FM dial in the next few years, FM still has a solid future perhaps another 30 years If these big corporations start to do things right, Radio at least on FM can survive competing with all the internet and broadband platforms if radio can keep and bring in new listeners.


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Re: Source: Cumulus Detroit is for sale...

Post by Mark King » Fri May 17, 2019 9:18 am

Steve79 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 8:41 pm
I hope EMF keeps their greedy hands off another station in Detroit.
I also hope their won't be any simulcasting going on. It's a waste of a frequency and format. (AM 760)
It would be cool if Cox or any other established company enter the market.
I would love to see Family Life Radio acquire one of the FM stations.


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Post by Chuck Davies » Fri May 17, 2019 5:19 pm

I think that If FLR acquires an FM signal in Detroit they could shutdown all their translators, That would be great.


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Re: Source: Cumulus Detroit is for sale...

Post by Mega Hertz » Fri May 17, 2019 8:23 pm

Ben Zonia wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 4:05 pm
Too few hands own too many stations. If they have 8 stations in a market, or even 5 or less, chances are that one or more of them is considered a throwaway, and they are seriously mismanaged. They just keep them in order to keep them out of the hands of competitors. Usually this is an AM or a serious rimshot Class A FM. Class A FMs can do well though, if the signal is centered where the population is centered. That's why they are so paranoid about "move-ins", which they respect as much as the farmer respects the boll weevil. Keep them out 25 miles, and they'll have no impact. Thats why they have rules like First Local Service and pushes to "equitably distribute facilities in all geographic areas". That is an anticompetitive load. Put them near the center, they can compete with far out grandfathered Class Bs and Class Cs. Goofy, conniving, cutthroat, business. Read the autobiographies, it wasn't always that bad.
Agree, agree & agree.

Oh, and I agree.

Especially the "two few hands own..." part.


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