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Langton and Lue Saturday AM

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NS8401
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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by NS8401 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:43 pm

Y M Ionhere wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:30 pm
borderboy653659200 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:55 am
What Progressive Era ? When black folks were being routinely lynched by terrorists such as the KKK,and suffering Southern de jure segregation and Northern de facto segregation ? By jove,what are you people being "taught" in your schools ? Do Limp-B**ls,Alex Jones, Hannity,O'Reilly,Alex Jones and other right-wing -nuts,including the religious BLIGHT,write your "history" books ? I can barely type a reply, as I am laughing so hard at you chaps' level of ignorance of your country's history ,which of course informs your dodgy present and increasingly uncertain (at least near) future .
As a center-right American, i find your stereotypes to be ignorant and a case of libel.
Anyway, Texas, with its gas industry and growing office complexes, is one of the fastest growing states due to its economy. Leans conservative, though liberals are flooding in for jobs and affordable housing. 2% unemployment in Fargo, ND-a red state. Omaha-great economy, affordable housing, located in Conservative Nebraska. Oklahoma-conservative. Very affordable, great economic growth in Tulsa and OK city. Conservative Tennessee....Nashville is booming, Knoxville is growing and very affordable. Everyone is leaving liberal areas for thede Conservative areas with opportunities. Real liberal places like Seattle,Portland, San francisco and NYC priced out the poor. Conservative cities and states offer a better combination of employment and affordable housing.
And they just happen to either have natural resources or great weather... that’s the biggest two reasons...

Without that oil and gas those states will quickly collapse. It would be the same effect Michigan would have had if the big three were being liquidated in the 1960’s. Their economies depend on the oil and gas. Finite resources are not a safe thing to hedge your bets on. All those new folks will get on government assistance (whatever is available in the land of DIY) or move back to wherever they came from and live with family.

The socialists you think you hate are not really socialists... not even close. A Democratic-Socialist and an actual Socialist are not the same.



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by Mike Oxlong » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:48 pm

I know we don't have this option on Saturdays.
But please forgo any of the local news on Sunday morning and watch CBS Sunday Morning.
Much better, interesting, and informative than any of the local news in my opinion.
Give it a try, you'll drop 2, 4 or 7 quicker than high school French.



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by borderboy653659200 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:02 pm

First of all,Y.M Ionhere,a "centre-right" American would be a right-wing radical here, so that comparison is invalid.Secondly,I believe the change from fossil fuels to renewable sources of energy must be gradually phased in to prevent the immediate loss of jobs,and thus a major recession ,if not recession . Coal and gas are finite energy sources,and the cost of unearthing them will become prohibitive in the very near future,to say nothing of the unassailable evidence that these pollutants are contributing to many cancers which are shortening Americans' life expectancy.
Finally,the people who are heading for "conservative" Texas,Oklahoma,Nebraska,Georgia,etc. are bringing their much more moderate positions with them.We couldn't vote in Georgia or Florida when I was born July 6,1953,but it took likely voter suppression to keep African American Democrat Stacy Abrams from becoming Georgia's first black Governor;likewise in "The Sunshine State," where Andrew Gilliam nearly became Florida's first black Chief EXECUTIVE .



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by Y M Ionhere » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:20 pm

NS8401 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:43 pm
Y M Ionhere wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:30 pm
borderboy653659200 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:55 am
What Progressive Era ? When black folks were being routinely lynched by terrorists such as the KKK,and suffering Southern de jure segregation and Northern de facto segregation ? By jove,what are you people being "taught" in your schools ? Do Limp-B**ls,Alex Jones, Hannity,O'Reilly,Alex Jones and other right-wing -nuts,including the religious BLIGHT,write your "history" books ? I can barely type a reply, as I am laughing so hard at you chaps' level of ignorance of your country's history ,which of course informs your dodgy present and increasingly uncertain (at least near) future .
As a center-right American, i find your stereotypes to be ignorant and a case of libel.
Anyway, Texas, with its gas industry and growing office complexes, is one of the fastest growing states due to its economy. Leans conservative, though liberals are flooding in for jobs and affordable housing. 2% unemployment in Fargo, ND-a red state. Omaha-great economy, affordable housing, located in Conservative Nebraska. Oklahoma-conservative. Very affordable, great economic growth in Tulsa and OK city. Conservative Tennessee....Nashville is booming, Knoxville is growing and very affordable. Everyone is leaving liberal areas for thede Conservative areas with opportunities. Real liberal places like Seattle,Portland, San francisco and NYC priced out the poor. Conservative cities and states offer a better combination of employment and affordable housing.
And they just happen to either have natural resources or great weather... that’s the biggest two reasons...

Without that oil and gas those states will quickly collapse. It would be the same effect Michigan would have had if the big three were being liquidated in the 1960’s. Their economies depend on the oil and gas. Finite resources are not a safe thing to hedge your bets on. All those new folks will get on government assistance (whatever is available in the land of DIY) or move back to wherever they came from and live with family.

The socialists you think you hate are not really socialists... not even close. A Democratic-Socialist and an actual Socialist are not the same.
ND and Nebraska do not have good weather. I could never live there based on the freezing temps and floods. And its not resources that keep the city of Omaha so stable economically. Or Des Moines, Iowa. its proper investment in the right industries.
Texas had good resources and warmer climates. But why have they grown so much? Because they invested in alternate industres as well. It started with oil. And thats still important. But Plano is not an oil city. I know the Berniebots and Elizabeth warren fan club will hate on it because its a wealthy city that tends to vote Republican. But its success has mostly been in the growth of tech companies and other non-oil industries taking advantage of its business-friendly policies and taxation. its a hotbed of office complexes and headquarters. If the oil industry collapsed, a lot of DFW suburbs will still be ok because the free-market, business friendly policies have allowed them to have a stable footing. Iowa has neither good weather nor a bunch of good resources. But its politically moderate. Vilsack was a fairly moderate Democrat who kept the economy in the state healthy and diverse when more liberal people like Granholm were attacking business in other states. He was an old-school, middle-America Democrat, the kind who actually was for the working man instead of these anti-business, regulation-obsessed progressives we have today. Why is warm, sunny California facing an exodus of people to red states if weather was the reason for growth? Because people cant afford the taxes or housing anymore. So really, Conservative business and tax policies allow these cities to GROW and diversify when needed. You cannot grow anything when you rail against industries that support millions of jobs. Which brings me to point 2.
HOW is a presidential candidate vowing to eliminate oil and insurance jobs NOT actual socialism? Its not allowing the market to dictate whether or not an industry succeeds, fails, or needs revamping. Its tyrannical and dictatorial. Its seizure of property and the economy. Then what? after elected, that opens the floodgates. Next it will be gun and ammo manufacturers. Saying you, yourself, will get rid of jobs or industries providing millions of people with a comfortable life sounds like pure, unvarnished socialism to me. And it allows for massive abuses of power after an election.
Yes, Ive read the article "Socialism versus democratic socialism". And I picked up that democratic Socialists basically like socialist policies but want them implemented through the ballot box. Thats fundamentally flawed. You cant believe in anything being "democratic" when you vow to eliminate whole industries yourself.Obama hated guns and the coal industry, and for all my complaints and dislike of his Presidency, he at least did not outright ban them. The New Green deal and ole Bernie explicitly state they will do away with things that currently impact our economy.



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by Y M Ionhere » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:25 pm

borderboy653659200 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:02 pm
First of all,Y.M Ionhere,a "centre-right" American would be a right-wing radical here, so that comparison is invalid.Secondly,I believe the change from fossil fuels to renewable sources of energy must be gradually phased in to prevent the immediate loss of jobs,and thus a major recession ,if not recession . Coal and gas are finite energy sources,and the cost of unearthing them will become prohibitive in the very near future,to say nothing of the unassailable evidence that these pollutants are contributing to many cancers which are shortening Americans' life expectancy.
Finally,the people who are heading for "conservative" Texas,Oklahoma,Nebraska,Georgia,etc. are bringing their much more moderate positions with them.We couldn't vote in Georgia or Florida when I was born July 6,1953,but it took likely voter suppression to keep African American Democrat Stacy Abrams from becoming Georgia's first black Governor;likewise in "The Sunshine State," where Andrew Gilliam nearly became Florida's first black Chief EXECUTIVE .
Stop it with your offensive race-baiting. It was not voter suppression that kept a radical democrat from getting elected in a semi-Conservative state. If anything, it was her radicalism and racial posturing.
Gillum was even more radical and he was a cop hater,so good riddance.
Stop looking only at peoples color. That reveals your own racism. Those folks you mentioned didnt lose because of racism or fraud. They lost because they were divisive zealots.



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by Y M Ionhere » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:29 pm

borderboy653659200 wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:02 pm
First of all,Y.M Ionhere,a "centre-right" American would be a right-wing radical here, so that comparison is invalid.Secondly,I believe the change from fossil fuels to renewable sources of energy must be gradually phased in to prevent the immediate loss of jobs,and thus a major recession ,if not recession . Coal and gas are finite energy sources,and the cost of unearthing them will become prohibitive in the very near future,to say nothing of the unassailable evidence that these pollutants are contributing to many cancers which are shortening Americans' life expectancy.
Finally,the people who are heading for "conservative" Texas,Oklahoma,Nebraska,Georgia,etc. are bringing their much more moderate positions with them.We couldn't vote in Georgia or Florida when I was born July 6,1953,but it took likely voter suppression to keep African American Democrat Stacy Abrams from becoming Georgia's first black Governor;likewise in "The Sunshine State," where Andrew Gilliam nearly became Florida's first black Chief EXECUTIVE .
Oh, and South Carolina is one of the more Conservative states. Black Republican Tim Scott got elected. Indian-American female elected previously as governor. And that state is deeper red than Georgia and for Florida. Shove that up your America-hating racist ass.



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by CircleWXYZ » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:41 pm

I can’t stand Trump or his inarticulate speeches. His policies suck as well.

However, I don’t turn on the local news for politics. I just want the facts.

Anchors need to look pretty and keel their opinions out of it.

If people want politics, tune into Fox News or MSNBC.



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by borderboy653659200 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:35 am

Circle WXYZ,if Trump weren't a "Fortunate Son" (a 1968 CCR hit) ,his only speech would be,"Would you like fries with it ?"



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by borderboy653659200 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:39 am

Y.M. Ionhere,Tim Scott and Nikki,Nikki,Nikki Haley prove only that a minority must be a much of a right-wing-nut as a white person to win statewide election in a goober state such as South Carolina .



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by borderboy653659200 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:43 am

Also,Y.M.Ionhere , do you realize that,though neither Ms. Haley nor fellow Indo-American former Louisiana Gov. Piyush Jindal certainly weren't viewed as such by whites,Indo-Americans are classified as racially Caucasian ?



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by borderboy653659200 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:10 pm

Y.M Ionhere,if you believe voter suppression didn't cost Ms. Abrams and Mr .Gillum the governorship of their respective states,you're drinking too much Trump Kool-Aid. (I'll bet you wore your "MAGA" hat when you typed your reply . ) Also,Mr.Gillum isn't NOT anti-cop ;he ,like most thinking people ( whose number seemingly doesn't include you) just believes cops should face repercussions for murdering unarmed citizens. (And some of my relatives are cops,so don't you DARE hit me with the "anti-cop" slogan .) See,YMI,I'm so accustomed to bigots' thinking that I can spot it at a second's notice,which makes them uncomfortable with being revealed as Troglodytes. And,calling out bigotry isn't race-baiting;it's my refusal to submit to its effect on my existence. Guess because I'm not a "good Negro" who'll say "Yassuh,Bawse" to your like,I'm a trouble-maker .Too bad,bud;my kind is here to stay,so get used to it,Bubba !!!



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by Y M Ionhere » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:08 pm

borderboy653659200 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:10 pm
Y.M Ionhere,if you believe voter suppression didn't cost Ms. Abrams and Mr .Gillum the governorship of their respective states,you're drinking too much Trump Kool-Aid. (I'll bet you wore your "MAGA" hat when you typed your reply . ) Also,Mr.Gillum isn't NOT anti-cop ;he ,like most thinking people ( whose number seemingly doesn't include you) just believes cops should face repercussions for murdering unarmed citizens. (And some of my relatives are cops,so don't you DARE hit me with the "anti-cop" slogan .) See,YMI,I'm so accustomed to bigots' thinking that I can spot it at a second's notice,which makes them uncomfortable with being revealed as Troglodytes. And,calling out bigotry isn't race-baiting;it's my refusal to submit to its effect on my existence. Guess because I'm not a "good Negro" who'll say "Yassuh,Bawse" to your like,I'm a trouble-maker .Too bad,bud;my kind is here to stay,so get used to it,Bubba !!!
1) Ive never owned a MAGA hat and dont have any interest in one
2) Georgia always votes for Republican Governors, so her loss was pretty standard. Except since shes black, race-baiters like you finally had something to pull out of your perpetually victim-obsessed, bitter asshole and try to use as a way to again attempt to ruin the reputation of someone you philosophically disagree with. Isnt that similar to what Islamaphobes and anti-semitic Nazis do? I think you like that a zealous black women lost because it gives you an excuse to accuse people of racism
3) as for using the term "right-wing nut" a few posts prior, you hopefully understand that you, too, could be considered a crazy, left-wing, race-card-pulling nut by people on the other side. If youre radical enough, even moderates look like nuts to you. Personally, I think you just get off on making white people, Americans, and anyone to the right of Obama or Clinton look evil just out of disagreement. And I believe you are more hateful than the people you supposedly call out.
4) Why do you care so much about what goes on in someone elses country?



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by Y M Ionhere » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:10 pm

borderboy653659200 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:43 am
Also,Y.M.Ionhere , do you realize that,though neither Ms. Haley nor fellow Indo-American former Louisiana Gov. Piyush Jindal certainly weren't viewed as such by whites,Indo-Americans are classified as racially Caucasian ?
Actually they are classified as Asian in the demographic breakdowns



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by Y M Ionhere » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:14 pm

borderboy653659200 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:39 am
Y.M. Ionhere,Tim Scott and Nikki,Nikki,Nikki Haley prove only that a minority must be a much of a right-wing-nut as a white person to win statewide election in a goober state such as South Carolina .
"Goober-state".
Who is the bigot now?



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Re: Langton and Lue Saturday AM

Post by Mr.Transistor » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:15 am

Y M Ionhere wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:14 pm
borderboy653659200 wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:39 am
Y.M. Ionhere,Tim Scott and Nikki,Nikki,Nikki Haley prove only that a minority must be a much of a right-wing-nut as a white person to win statewide election in a goober state such as South Carolina .
"Goober-state".
Who is the bigot now?
YM , it's quite alright for Cowboy to spew his bigoted, racist, sexist, ignorant views and opinions on the buzzboard. Just don't call him out on it.



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