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Trump's a bigot, news at 11

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Re: Trump's a bigot, news at 11

Post by Rate This » Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:05 pm

bmw wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:58 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:19 pm
So you are completely absolving him of any culpability on the assumption that these people did this on their own with no influence from his words or actions?
If nothing he said could be reasonably interpreted as suggesting that people break in violently, then I fail to see where culpability attaches.
Good lord man… these people didn’t think to do this in a vacuum…



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Re: Trump's a bigot, news at 11

Post by Honeyman » Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:25 pm

Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:05 pm
bmw wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:58 pm
Rate This wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:19 pm
So you are completely absolving him of any culpability on the assumption that these people did this on their own with no influence from his words or actions?
If nothing he said could be reasonably interpreted as suggesting that people break in violently, then I fail to see where culpability attaches.
Good lord man… these people didn’t think to do this in a vacuum…
You have to grasp how beemers mind works. It's all literal and black & white with him. He doesn't have the capability to understand nuance. If Trump didn't literally say the words, "Storm the Capitol!!" or "Steal Me Votes!!", he cannot conceive of the possibility that that is what Trump really means when he utters his hate speech. Christ, he virtually said, "Steal Me Votes" to Raffsenberger, and he doesn't believe it.
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Re: Trump's a bigot, news at 11

Post by bmw » Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:28 pm

Honeyman wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:29 am
You and bmw hear what you want to hear. But to those of us who use brain matter, it was as plain as day.
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:25 pm
You have to grasp how beemers mind works. It's all literal and black & white with him. He doesn't have the capability to understand nuance. If Trump didn't literally say the words, "Storm the Capitol!!" or "Steal Me Votes!!", he cannot conceive of the possibility that that is what Trump really means when he utters his hate speech.
It is quite comical putting these 2 different statements one after the other.

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Re: Trump's a bigot, news at 11

Post by Honeyman » Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:32 pm

bmw wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:28 pm
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:29 am
You and bmw hear what you want to hear. But to those of us who use brain matter, it was as plain as day.
Honeyman wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:25 pm
You have to grasp how beemers mind works. It's all literal and black & white with him. He doesn't have the capability to understand nuance. If Trump didn't literally say the words, "Storm the Capitol!!" or "Steal Me Votes!!", he cannot conceive of the possibility that that is what Trump really means when he utters his hate speech.
It is quite comical putting these 2 different statements one after the other.
How are the statements different? Trump is virtually yelling from a mountaintop what a crook he is. You refuse to believe it.
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Re: Trump's a bigot, news at 11

Post by Turkeytop » Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:48 pm

Matt wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:44 pm
bmw wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:34 pm
Matt wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:23 pm
It goes deeper than that. Trump could rape or murder a loved one and they'd create a justification. It's a seriously deranged disorder.
You have the aforementioned disorder when it comes to defending the behavior of anyone and everyone associated with the University of Michigan.
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Re: Trump's a bigot, news at 11

Post by radiofann » Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:59 pm

It’s all going to boil down to Election Day/week/month 2024.

In the seven swing states, How many republicans will hold their nose and pull the lever for trump, vs being unenthused and staying home. Many blacks were unenthused for Hillary in 2016 and did not vote.

And how many deep progressives (and Palestinian/hamas supporters), the same ones voting ‘uncommitted’ in many Dem primaries, will hold their nose and vote for Biden vs voting for RFK or Jill Stein or Cornell west, as a protest vote or,vote,of conscience.

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