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What do you want?

Post by learn to fly » Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:51 pm

I want leaders who are calm and in command during important moments. The most striking part of Thursday’s hearing was the video package of Nancy Pelosi’s conduct during January 6.

Pelosi is totally composed. She follows the formalities of office in addressing the governor. She has already reached out to the Republican governor of Maryland. In asking Northam about potentially deploying his state’s national guard, she isn’t making demands—she’s evaluating options and is careful to inquire about what the rules are regarding the movement of one state’s National Guard to another jurisdiction.

No hysterics. No histrionics. No exaggerations. Pelosi is not grandstanding or complaining about how this is the worst attack in American history or about how unfairly she and her colleagues are being treated.

Whether or not your political preferences line up with Pelosi’s, hers was the kind of leadership this country needs in moments of crisis.

I want professional politicians who are capable of viewing the world rationally and working together to execute the basic functions of government.

Here’s Pelosi again, this time on the phone with Mike Pence. We only get to hear her side of the conversation, but it’s not hard to piece together what he’s saying.

Pelosi: We’re trying to figure out how we can get this job done today. We talked to Mitch about it earlier. He’s not in the room with us right now, but he was earlier and said, “Yeah, we want to expedite this” and hopefully they could confine it to just one complaint, Arizona, and then we could vote and that would be, you know, just move forward with the rest of the states. . . .

The overriding wish is to do it at the Capitol. What we are being told very directly is it’s going to take days for the Capitol to be okay again.

We have an Evangelical Republican from Indiana, who is the sitting vice president, working directly with the liberal Democrat from San Francisco in order to save the ship of state and get the job done.

That’s what I want out of American politics. I want a baseline level of professional cooperation from elected leaders that approximates Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi on the afternoon of January 6.

Let them fight about policy and legislation until the cows come home. Let the parties go to war over abortion and tax cuts and Medicare and the defense budget and all the rest. That’s great.

But I want a world where, when it comes to foundational questions such as the peaceful transition of power, those arguments all drop away and the two parties hold hands and act like professionals.



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Re: What do you want?

Post by Taco » Fri Oct 14, 2022 1:10 pm

I want leaders who are professional and becoming of their respective offices. I want leaders who aren't election deniers. I want leaders who aren't gonna become cultist/extremists like the MAGA crowd. I want leaders who denouce conspiracy theorists.
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Re: What do you want?

Post by Rate This » Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:08 pm

I’d love a Republican to tell me what they plan to do instead of attacking the other side.

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Re: What do you want?

Post by Honeyman » Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:42 pm

The censorship king from out of state.

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Re: What do you want?

Post by Turkeytop » Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:37 pm

Someone who isn't a Conservative or a Liberal.
I started out with nothing and I still have most of it.

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Re: What do you want?

Post by Rate This » Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:54 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:37 pm
Someone who isn't a Conservative or a Liberal.
How about a working class conservative? We have one of those running I would kindly donate to you.

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Re: What do you want?

Post by MotorCityRadioFreak » Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:02 pm

I want someone who will defend LGBT rights, support health mandates in periods of public communicable diseases, and most of all someone who can hold these capitalist thugs accountable for ripping Americans off. The level of greed at the grocery store, utility meters, and gas pumps are insane. We need to break big businesses up. Stop stuff like this merger between Kroger and Albertson’s. Break up big business like the government did with the baby bells. Big business is too big to succeed for the American people. The Democrats need to stop with the Trump pursuit and start anti trust litigation.
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Re: What do you want?

Post by Turkeytop » Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:07 pm

Rate This wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:54 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:37 pm
Someone who isn't a Conservative or a Liberal.
How about a working class conservative? We have one of those running I would kindly donate to you.
There is little difference between Liberals and Conservatives. They both share the same pro-capitalist, anti-working class ideology. The only real difference is that Conservatives are honest and forthright about their disdain for the working class, while Liberals pretend to be our ally.
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Re: What do you want?

Post by bmw » Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:41 pm

I want someone who wants to drastically slash the size and role of the federal government.

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Re: What do you want?

Post by Rate This » Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:52 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:07 pm
Rate This wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:54 pm
Turkeytop wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:37 pm
Someone who isn't a Conservative or a Liberal.
How about a working class conservative? We have one of those running I would kindly donate to you.
There is little difference between Liberals and Conservatives. They both share the same pro-capitalist, anti-working class ideology. The only real difference is that Conservatives are honest and forthright about their disdain for the working class, while Liberals pretend to be our ally.
I say that because we have a candidate who literally has “working class conservative” on his signs…

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Re: What do you want?

Post by Turkeytop » Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:59 pm

Rate This wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:52 pm

I say that because we have a candidate who literally has “working class conservative” on his signs…
If he's pretending to be working class, then he's really a closet Liberal.
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Re: What do you want?

Post by Rate This » Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:17 pm

Turkeytop wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:59 pm
Rate This wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:52 pm

I say that because we have a candidate who literally has “working class conservative” on his signs…
If he's pretending to be working class, then he's really a closet Liberal.
Working class folks are currently being channeled into the “vote for us and we’ll bring back the way it was” column.

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Re: What do you want?

Post by Lester The Nightfly » Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:34 pm

learn to fly wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:51 pm
I want leaders who are calm and in command during important moments. The most striking part of Thursday’s hearing was the video package of Nancy Pelosi’s conduct during January 6.

Pelosi is totally composed. She follows the formalities of office in addressing the governor. She has already reached out to the Republican governor of Maryland. In asking Northam about potentially deploying his state’s national guard, she isn’t making demands—she’s evaluating options and is careful to inquire about what the rules are regarding the movement of one state’s National Guard to another jurisdiction.

No hysterics. No histrionics. No exaggerations. Pelosi is not grandstanding or complaining about how this is the worst attack in American history or about how unfairly she and her colleagues are being treated.

Whether or not your political preferences line up with Pelosi’s, hers was the kind of leadership this country needs in moments of crisis.

I want professional politicians who are capable of viewing the world rationally and working together to execute the basic functions of government.

Here’s Pelosi again, this time on the phone with Mike Pence. We only get to hear her side of the conversation, but it’s not hard to piece together what he’s saying.

Pelosi: We’re trying to figure out how we can get this job done today. We talked to Mitch about it earlier. He’s not in the room with us right now, but he was earlier and said, “Yeah, we want to expedite this” and hopefully they could confine it to just one complaint, Arizona, and then we could vote and that would be, you know, just move forward with the rest of the states. . . .

The overriding wish is to do it at the Capitol. What we are being told very directly is it’s going to take days for the Capitol to be okay again.

We have an Evangelical Republican from Indiana, who is the sitting vice president, working directly with the liberal Democrat from San Francisco in order to save the ship of state and get the job done.

That’s what I want out of American politics. I want a baseline level of professional cooperation from elected leaders that approximates Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi on the afternoon of January 6.

Let them fight about policy and legislation until the cows come home. Let the parties go to war over abortion and tax cuts and Medicare and the defense budget and all the rest. That’s great.

But I want a world where, when it comes to foundational questions such as the peaceful transition of power, those arguments all drop away and the two parties hold hands and act like professionals.
I'd like to see a video of what Trump was doing during the insurrection. My guess is it's not very different than going to a McDonald's and watching a fat guy wolf down a Big Mac.

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Re: What do you want?

Post by Rate This » Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:49 pm

Lester The Nightfly wrote:
Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:34 pm
learn to fly wrote:
Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:51 pm
I want leaders who are calm and in command during important moments. The most striking part of Thursday’s hearing was the video package of Nancy Pelosi’s conduct during January 6.

Pelosi is totally composed. She follows the formalities of office in addressing the governor. She has already reached out to the Republican governor of Maryland. In asking Northam about potentially deploying his state’s national guard, she isn’t making demands—she’s evaluating options and is careful to inquire about what the rules are regarding the movement of one state’s National Guard to another jurisdiction.

No hysterics. No histrionics. No exaggerations. Pelosi is not grandstanding or complaining about how this is the worst attack in American history or about how unfairly she and her colleagues are being treated.

Whether or not your political preferences line up with Pelosi’s, hers was the kind of leadership this country needs in moments of crisis.

I want professional politicians who are capable of viewing the world rationally and working together to execute the basic functions of government.

Here’s Pelosi again, this time on the phone with Mike Pence. We only get to hear her side of the conversation, but it’s not hard to piece together what he’s saying.

Pelosi: We’re trying to figure out how we can get this job done today. We talked to Mitch about it earlier. He’s not in the room with us right now, but he was earlier and said, “Yeah, we want to expedite this” and hopefully they could confine it to just one complaint, Arizona, and then we could vote and that would be, you know, just move forward with the rest of the states. . . .

The overriding wish is to do it at the Capitol. What we are being told very directly is it’s going to take days for the Capitol to be okay again.

We have an Evangelical Republican from Indiana, who is the sitting vice president, working directly with the liberal Democrat from San Francisco in order to save the ship of state and get the job done.

That’s what I want out of American politics. I want a baseline level of professional cooperation from elected leaders that approximates Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi on the afternoon of January 6.

Let them fight about policy and legislation until the cows come home. Let the parties go to war over abortion and tax cuts and Medicare and the defense budget and all the rest. That’s great.

But I want a world where, when it comes to foundational questions such as the peaceful transition of power, those arguments all drop away and the two parties hold hands and act like professionals.
I'd like to see a video of what Trump was doing during the insurrection. My guess is it's not very different than going to a McDonald's and watching a fat guy wolf down a Big Mac.
One of his favorite hobbies…

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