2022 Railroad Strike

[Deleted User 15846]

How long until we have endure the talk of "The evils of Unions" and how "wonderful" right to work for less states are for employees the fascist right.

I am holding out hope that such a issue will be averted but I see the principle here. After so many years of workers having to make concession after concession after concession, one gets to a point where, you have to say " what are they going to wrangle out of me next?".

It's a very tough situation but it's time The Kings and Queens of corporate "merica" got reminded who really makes things happen and work.

[Matt]

How long until we have endure the talk of "The evils of Unions" and how "wonderful" right to work for less states are for employees the fascist right.

I am holding out hope that such a issue will be averted but I see the principle here. After so many years of workers having to make concession after concession after concession, one gets to a point where, you have to say " what are they going to wrangle out of me next?".

It's a very tough situation but it's time The Kings and Queens of corporate "merica" got reminded who really makes things happen and work.

Get the fuck out with your bullshit of if you don't support unions, you're a fascist.

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Tentative deal reached and strike averted.

[A1B1C1D1]

Next question, will the Fed rate hike be a full point? Will 8ish% be the new modern mortgage rate as it was in the Clinton years when the economy was booming? Will young people see this amount as highway robbery even though middle aged and older Americans grew up with these rates?

[MWmetalhead]

I think the next rate hike will be at least 75 basis points. A full percent is certainly possible.

[Turkeytop]

Tentative deal reached and strike averted.

Good news. A win for collective bargaining.

In Canada, instead of letting collective bargaining work, our extreme right wing government usually steps in to block it when there's even a hint of a possible strike.

Good for USA.

[Deleted User 15846]

How long until we have endure the talk of "The evils of Unions" and how "wonderful" right to work for less states are for employees the fascist right.

I am holding out hope that such a issue will be averted but I see the principle here. After so many years of workers having to make concession after concession after concession, one gets to a point where, you have to say " what are they going to wrangle out of me next?".

It's a very tough situation but it's time The Kings and Queens of corporate "merica" got reminded who really makes things happen and work.

Get the fuck out with your bullshit of if you don't support unions, you're a fascist.

Following your comments, you've said many short sided things but this has to be the shortest of them. Now, are you are aware of how labour unions even operate? My intuition tells me you've never worked in a Union shop.

Well if I have to leave, then who says you get to stay?

[kager]

Following your comments, you've said many short sided things but this has to be the shortest of them. Now, are you are aware of how labour unions even operate? My intuition tells me you've never worked in a Union shop.

Well if I have to leave, then who says you get to stay?

You know what they say, "Don't go away mad..."

[km1125]

Seems like the workers got a pretty sweet deal out of this. Did they really deserve it, or is this just another thing that's going to hike inflation because of higher shipping costs?? Consumers will be paying for the increases.

I'd be curious to know what the real (complete) benefits packages for these folks who are getting the big increases and bonuses. Do they still get defined retirement plans? Why are "railroad benefits" treated separately in the tax code (seems like there is ALWAYS a line in the tax forms to fill out)?

MAYBE they deserved it, MAYBE they didn't. I just don't know yet, but it certainly seemed like the government strong-armed the companies to cave to demands based on the few news reports I've seen.

[bugzapper]

I'd be curious to know what the real (complete) benefits packages for these folks who are getting the big increases and bonuses. Do they still get defined retirement plans? Why are "railroad benefits" treated separately in the tax code (seems like there is ALWAYS a line in the tax forms to fill out)?

As far as your "railroad benefits" question is concerned, railroad workers have their own "Social Security" program and have never paid into SS nor received benefits either. My grandfather worked for the C&O railroad and almost blew a gasket when Nixon tried to get a hold of those Railroad funds. Nixon did not succeed and the programs remains separate today.

[km1125]

I'd be curious to know what the real (complete) benefits packages for these folks who are getting the big increases and bonuses. Do they still get defined retirement plans? Why are "railroad benefits" treated separately in the tax code (seems like there is ALWAYS a line in the tax forms to fill out)?

As far as your "railroad benefits" question is concerned, railroad workers have their own "Social Security" program and have never paid into SS nor received benefits either. My grandfather worked for the C&O railroad and almost blew a gasket when Nixon tried to get a hold of those Railroad funds. Nixon did not succeed and the programs remains separate today.

I did some poking around after I made that post and it does appear there's a way for folks to collect both RRRI (rr retirement income) and SS. There is a reduction in one or the other when you qualify, but it's not clear if that's a 1:1 ratio. Looks like the RRRI is pretty lucrative though, so I'd bet they'd rather stay with that then be moved over to SS.

Governments need to get rid of defined benefits plans.

[bugzapper]

I'd be curious to know what the real (complete) benefits packages for these folks who are getting the big increases and bonuses. Do they still get defined retirement plans? Why are "railroad benefits" treated separately in the tax code (seems like there is ALWAYS a line in the tax forms to fill out)?

As far as your "railroad benefits" question is concerned, railroad workers have their own "Social Security" program and have never paid into SS nor received benefits either. My grandfather worked for the C&O railroad and almost blew a gasket when Nixon tried to get a hold of those Railroad funds. Nixon did not succeed and the programs remains separate today.

I did some poking around after I made that post and it does appear there's a way for folks to collect both RRRI (rr retirement income) and SS. There is a reduction in one or the other when you qualify, but it's not clear if that's a 1:1 ratio. Looks like the RRRI is pretty lucrative though, so I'd bet they'd rather stay with that then be moved over to SS.

Governments need to get rid of defined benefits plans.

Too bad the RRRI cannot manage SS. SS probably be in a better situation.